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I believe I have been as clear and accuarate as possible

Posted on: December 1, 2017 at 14:54:15 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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about the role of faith in my religious belief. It is why I don't really get emotionally charged about it in discussion. How can I get upset about it when I cannot prove it? I can simply share what faith tells me is true and let it go from there. But I try to make clear it is a personal view I cannot force on others.

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4Tigs rapes children. I believe it to be true - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:02:53

pickle, 4Tigs stated "I believe in God, hence it's - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 13:52:31

Yes, that was it - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:05:35

Funny - neither can 90Tiger - repeatedly(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:06:38

another very helpful post from you on this topic - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:51:48

I believe it to be a fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:55:48

translation: It's not a fact, it is something I believe to - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:05:20

I will give you on the subject of my wife, that is opinion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:10:10

yay for you. your faith leads you to drop your rational - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:17:42

My faith tells me this world will call my faith foolishness - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:29:14

no 4tigs, this isn't about your faith being foolish, it's ab - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 16:00:26

I believe it is fact, and believe you will one day see that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 16:15:04

this is helpful and instructive from you - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:50:01

I believe I have been as clear and accuarate as possible - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:54:15

wait, you mean like the existence of natural rights?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/1 13:59:41

how many times do I need to type "it's a philosophical - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:04:04

it's your Pickle and ummms religion(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/1 14:06:45

Wonder if he screws up his own quotes in talkiing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:10:22

what's the difference between "i believe it is a fact" and - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:34:22

Very clearly, one is a statement of personal belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:39:27

So when you thought you were being cute - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:49:50

Yes, he believes it to be a fact that he isn't a child rapis - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:06:07

I believe it to be fact, and more so than ever now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:55:08

lmfao "i believe it is a fact" is moronic, nonsensical rh - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:41:48

He thinks it's absolution - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:54:44

No, it is trying to be as honest as possible about - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:56:26

this has nothing to do with your religion or faith and - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:06:56

I'm not talking about god or religion (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:00:56

No, it is a careful inclusion to be consistent with using - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:45:12

You claimed fact, now you're backtracking - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:56:31

Not sure what part of "I believe it is fact" you don't get - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:01:09

I get that you are desperately trying to save face - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:11:22

I said I believe it to be fact, and I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:12:46

You're being dishonest. This is a character flaw (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:22:59

i believe it is fact is nothing more than: "It's a belief" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:07:56

To you, that is fine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:11:55

Words have meanings, you know - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:30:19

I said I believe it to be fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:58:17

That's a pussy cop-out (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:06:20

So - meatiger MU - 12/1 14:05:11

Absolutely - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:08:01

lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:04:35

And you even used quotation marks - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:08:30

You'e an internet TROLL. I believe it to be true - MIZZOUowns SEC - 12/1 13:21:19

He is a troll no doubt - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:24:47

OMG - here is the definition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:36:36

RE: OMG - here is the definition - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:45:26

Indeed there are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:52:44

He's a liar and lacks character - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:52:01

What is most ironic is that you knowingly made up a lie - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:54:51

I didn't make up a lie, 4Tigs - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:04:02

If you didn't make up a lie, would you share where you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:06:11

From others (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:06:52

So you claim I showed a lack of character for doing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:09:30

Clearly this exercise is lost on you (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:20:50

No, I know exactly what you are attempting to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:23:49

I'm not giving you a pass. Own your behavior - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:25:16

Had it been a one time claim, I may agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:33:10

Don't try to excuse your behavior onto me - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:38:18

I believe it to be fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:40:35

That's a cop-out and not what I asked - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:47:59

I don't know for sure. I can only use reason and common - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:51:30

You called it a fact before - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:57:59

But earlier, didn't you do the very thing you say is an - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:01:49

Ohmygod (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:12:28

It's more likely to be true that you are. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/1 13:13:32

I don't support any of those things. That's not legalese (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:36:20

He doesn't support them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:39:30

That's not entirely true. - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:48:49

I thought you didn't believe in property rights.(nm) - tcat UMKC - 12/1 13:52:34

yes...support means - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:21:40

Believing it to be true does not make it a fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:05:58

Sorry, but given your past (and present) as a liar - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:08:36

That is fine. All I can do is state the truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:09:50

"I have been told it is true. I believe it to be fact. - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:11:28

And you are free to believe it, but I can assure you it is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:15:21

You lack character as you've shown today in your lies - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:35:44

That is factually incorrect - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:38:01

Nothing I said is incorrect (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:38:58

What is most telling is what you simply will not say - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:39:58

What is telling is your hypocrisy - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:43:40

I am making the claim because it has been stated with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:48:03

And still you try to push your behavior onto others - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:51:08

Will not simply refute the claim and accept my apology - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:59:28

You haven't offered an apology - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:05:02

I have repeatedly offered to admit fault and openly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:11:21

No, you haven't admitted fault - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:12:46

That is because you are misstating why I did it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:16:58

I haven't misstated anything, 4Tigs - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:23:40

I never stated there was a full account - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:35:35

Those aren't accounts, 4Tigs. - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:39:39

They are the accounts here, the only ones I can go by - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:41:54

This is on you, not me. You are the one who brought it up - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:46:16

I may have been careless to repeat a claim I cannot prove - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:48:44

More weasel language. You simply cannot own your behavior (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:00:29

And you won't tell me it isn't true - hmmmm.....(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:02:25

That's right, I won't.This is about your character, not mine - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:37:45

True that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:40:48