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Very clearly, one is a statement of personal belief

Posted on: December 1, 2017 at 14:39:27 CT

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and one is a statement of universal belief.

To state "It is fact Lincoln was the greatest president of all time" is markedly different than stating "I believe it is fact Lincoln was the greatest president of all time."

You know, or should know based on past dialog on this subject, I have always made clear my belief is built on pure faith and I would therefore never try to force it on anyone else. That this is not acceptable to you is most curious. And that we have to continually revisit this is as well.

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4Tigs rapes children. I believe it to be true - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:02:53

pickle, 4Tigs stated "I believe in God, hence it's - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 13:52:31

Yes, that was it - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:05:35

Funny - neither can 90Tiger - repeatedly(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:06:38

another very helpful post from you on this topic - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:51:48

I believe it to be a fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:55:48

translation: It's not a fact, it is something I believe to - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:05:20

I will give you on the subject of my wife, that is opinion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:10:10

yay for you. your faith leads you to drop your rational - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:17:42

My faith tells me this world will call my faith foolishness - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:29:14

no 4tigs, this isn't about your faith being foolish, it's ab - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 16:00:26

I believe it is fact, and believe you will one day see that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 16:15:04

this is helpful and instructive from you - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:50:01

I believe I have been as clear and accuarate as possible - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:54:15

wait, you mean like the existence of natural rights?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/1 13:59:41

how many times do I need to type "it's a philosophical - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:04:04

it's your Pickle and ummms religion(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/1 14:06:45

Wonder if he screws up his own quotes in talkiing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:10:22

what's the difference between "i believe it is a fact" and - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:34:22

Very clearly, one is a statement of personal belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:39:27

So when you thought you were being cute - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:49:50

Yes, he believes it to be a fact that he isn't a child rapis - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:06:07

I believe it to be fact, and more so than ever now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:55:08

lmfao "i believe it is a fact" is moronic, nonsensical rh - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:41:48

He thinks it's absolution - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:54:44

No, it is trying to be as honest as possible about - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:56:26

this has nothing to do with your religion or faith and - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:06:56

I'm not talking about god or religion (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:00:56

No, it is a careful inclusion to be consistent with using - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:45:12

You claimed fact, now you're backtracking - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:56:31

Not sure what part of "I believe it is fact" you don't get - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:01:09

I get that you are desperately trying to save face - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:11:22

I said I believe it to be fact, and I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:12:46

You're being dishonest. This is a character flaw (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:22:59

i believe it is fact is nothing more than: "It's a belief" (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 15:07:56

To you, that is fine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:11:55

Words have meanings, you know - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:30:19

I said I believe it to be fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:58:17

That's a pussy cop-out (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:06:20

So - meatiger MU - 12/1 14:05:11

Absolutely - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:08:01

lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/1 14:04:35

And you even used quotation marks - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:08:30

You'e an internet TROLL. I believe it to be true - MIZZOUowns SEC - 12/1 13:21:19

He is a troll no doubt - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:24:47

OMG - here is the definition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:36:36

RE: OMG - here is the definition - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:45:26

Indeed there are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:52:44

He's a liar and lacks character - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:52:01

What is most ironic is that you knowingly made up a lie - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:54:51

I didn't make up a lie, 4Tigs - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:04:02

If you didn't make up a lie, would you share where you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:06:11

From others (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:06:52

So you claim I showed a lack of character for doing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:09:30

Clearly this exercise is lost on you (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:20:50

No, I know exactly what you are attempting to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:23:49

I'm not giving you a pass. Own your behavior - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:25:16

Had it been a one time claim, I may agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:33:10

Don't try to excuse your behavior onto me - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:38:18

I believe it to be fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:40:35

That's a cop-out and not what I asked - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:47:59

I don't know for sure. I can only use reason and common - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:51:30

You called it a fact before - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:57:59

But earlier, didn't you do the very thing you say is an - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:01:49

Ohmygod (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:12:28

It's more likely to be true that you are. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/1 13:13:32

I don't support any of those things. That's not legalese (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:36:20

He doesn't support them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:39:30

That's not entirely true. - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:48:49

I thought you didn't believe in property rights.(nm) - tcat UMKC - 12/1 13:52:34

yes...support means - meatiger MU - 12/1 13:21:40

Believing it to be true does not make it a fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:05:58

Sorry, but given your past (and present) as a liar - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:08:36

That is fine. All I can do is state the truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:09:50

"I have been told it is true. I believe it to be fact. - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:11:28

And you are free to believe it, but I can assure you it is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:15:21

You lack character as you've shown today in your lies - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:35:44

That is factually incorrect - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:38:01

Nothing I said is incorrect (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:38:58

What is most telling is what you simply will not say - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:39:58

What is telling is your hypocrisy - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:43:40

I am making the claim because it has been stated with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:48:03

And still you try to push your behavior onto others - pickle MU

- 12/1 13:51:08

Will not simply refute the claim and accept my apology - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 13:59:28

You haven't offered an apology - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:05:02

I have repeatedly offered to admit fault and openly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:11:21

No, you haven't admitted fault - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:12:46

That is because you are misstating why I did it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:16:58

I haven't misstated anything, 4Tigs - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:23:40

I never stated there was a full account - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:35:35

Those aren't accounts, 4Tigs. - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:39:39

They are the accounts here, the only ones I can go by - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:41:54

This is on you, not me. You are the one who brought it up - pickle MU

- 12/1 14:46:16

I may have been careless to repeat a claim I cannot prove - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 14:48:44

More weasel language. You simply cannot own your behavior (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:00:29

And you won't tell me it isn't true - hmmmm.....(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:02:25

That's right, I won't.This is about your character, not mine - pickle MU

- 12/1 15:37:45

True that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/1 15:40:48