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No one is talking monopoly of equipment production, Tigrrr
Posted on: November 30, 2017 at 11:11:49 CT
pickle
MU
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we're talking about government monopoly
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Pickle, who would call if your house was on fire? (nm)
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Fourth and Long
MU
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11/30 09:09:38
firemen are a relic of the past
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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11/30 09:40:27
no, not true at all. nm
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justwinbaby
KC
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11/30 10:22:08
Buy a vowel, rabbit....
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Spanky
KU
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11/30 10:12:46
You really are stupid....
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:43:09
those folks live in an area of natural fires. and other
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:48:33
Do these people?
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Spanky
KU
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11/30 10:24:56
the responses were in the implied context of this post
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:29:10
I get that... but the OP is about house fires in general
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Spanky
KU
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11/30 10:33:15
The OP isn't what was responded to which resulted in
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:36:41
The subthread is this ' it’s damn near impossible to set
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Spanky
KU
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11/30 10:46:22
They are idiots defending an idiot cause.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 11:18:07
Another Tigrrr personal friend story
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pickle
MU
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11/30 12:46:44
and how does this information imply that only
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 12:03:25
...in california only?
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 11:09:44
according to the National Fire Protection agency, 69% of
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justwinbaby
KC
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11/30 10:41:38
the argument is only gubmit can do fire protection, you're
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 11:08:22
and even worse
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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11/30 09:51:00
first role of govt - create demand. (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:51:31
They should all move to pickletonia where unicorns
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:49:54
straw man. go play with your blocks, Tigrrr!, you're over y
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:51:02
meh. If you r solution is so simple and perfect, go sell it
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 10:06:18
nobody is "selling" anything as "simple" nor "perfect". One
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:14:07
straw man (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:13:21
This is not an example of meaningful discussion from you
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pickle
MU
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11/30 10:10:08
ALmost everyone engaging in discussion is
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 10:15:28
what is this "picktopia argument" exactly?
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:19:10
pickletopia. Sorry for the typo.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 11:19:17
no, i'm not familiar with pickle mentioning any of that -
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 12:33:25
Please state the "picktopia argument"
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pickle
MU
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11/30 10:17:38
Those communities in California are akin
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:46:38
A fire service (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:28:31
Do you have a private fire service available? (nm)
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Fourth and Long
MU
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11/30 09:36:31
I will neither confirm nor deny
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:46:41
If we eliminated all government fire services
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:37:30
at most, people pay $25 to $50 a year for
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justwinbaby
KC
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11/30 10:26:01
and pay them more to be successful
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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11/30 09:53:24
And if the world was made of meat
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 09:41:41
Is this a pro-capitalism, pro-free market, limited gvmt
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pickle
MU
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11/30 10:07:39
so companies for a town with 3000 people,
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justwinbaby
KC
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11/30 10:29:36
Nothing is supposed to be
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pickle
MU
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11/30 11:08:44
red herring. do better (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:49:03
Hard to do that when direct questions are asked
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 10:02:47
you mean like the direct question Meat asked and you
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:03:51
The answer is likely yes
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 10:09:18
funny - the OP is a "what if" you simpleton (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:20:08
It was a direct question
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 10:49:48
As opposed to your name calling? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 11:09:25
it was a hypothetical, which is precisely a "what if"
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 11:02:38
It is possible to ask a direct what if question
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 11:55:06
yeah, and apparently you don't get it either (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 12:41:21
Haven't you called for the elimination of dozens
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 10:11:27
They've been crowded out by govt-provided or endorsed
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:37:15
I am guessing one of his two main infuencers
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/30 09:25:47
if there weren't a monopoly on fire services? whomever
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:20:25
In his mind
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Grasslands
MU
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11/30 09:19:15
The problem with a private fire firm, is unpaid neighbor.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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11/30 09:24:35
The neighbor with fire services paid for calls his provider
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:27:07
The paid neighbor calls the fire department to protect his
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:26:07
If they fail to fulfill their duties, you can actually sue
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:26:49
Private contractors already exist (nm)
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Sal
KC
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11/30 09:24:09
What is it about fire services that makes it such that
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:20:58
Not sure many people believe that government is
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:28:54
Why don't you believe people think that? Read this thread,
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:38:24
To some extent I agree with them
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:44:14
laughable. "big mistrust of private businesses" - these
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:46:40
RE: laughable. "big mistrust of private businesses" - these
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:48:01
btw, do you now understand how hypocritical it is for them
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:50:36
I completely get the hipocrisy
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:53:35
Yep, it comes back to "pet projects" (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 10:04:35
in this case, i don't think it's even that. it's more "trad
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:06:52
RE: in this case, i don't think it's even that. it's more "trad
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 10:12:28
It's not tradition but status quo and indoctrination
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pickle
MU
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11/30 10:15:56
yup, exactly (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:21:58
Yeah, that too. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 10:10:03
yeah, and you just attempted to judge 3 people in one
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:49:46
Infrastructure.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:26:17
You act as if people and agencies won't cooperate
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:31:22
How much does a shipping vessel cost? or an Oil Rig in the
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:29:13
What a stupid argument.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:33:17
lol,
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:39:25
The checker at my local hardware story might get a
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 10:24:55
that you have a local hardware store is unique and nice.
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:30:23
There it is. The Tigrrrr personal friend story
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:37:42
P*zz off.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:39:28
Yes, I know you're anti-capitalism
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:48:55
those are private enterprises in competitive industries, lik
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:47:34
Oh, and until recently, Overland Park Fire Dept was a
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:28:01
Exclusive services contracts with monopoly municipalities
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:29:03
Oh, so only government can afford capital goods. Ever
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:28:00
They cost that much
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:30:38
And they last a long time, so it's a long term investment.(nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:33:56
It is a capital expense
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:36:50
Yes. A capital expense. For the long term.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:40:55
It is still not an "investment"
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:46:46
RE: It is still not an "investment"
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:52:18
Didn't I just agree it's a capital expense.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:48:44
It's not an investment (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:36:05
yeah, and there isn't any market pressure whatsoever, they
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:31:33
Not true at all
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:34:47
Monopolies at the point of purchase certainly can lead to
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:38:12
Well..
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:46:04
"competition is competitive" (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:59:16
I definitely don't doubt that there were competitive
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:55:08
you utterly missed his point - entirely (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 09:53:03
I got his point
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 09:55:18
No, but it absolute "can" and "does". You should come
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:05:52
Government certainly has fiscal pressure
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meatiger
MU
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11/30 10:14:43
nope, not remotely the same as private capital pressure.
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:31:02
????
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:44:52
Awesome (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:58:02
Monopolies and price distortions that come with them. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:55:42
There are no monopolies when it comes to buying
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 10:24:48
No one is talking monopoly of equipment production, Tigrrr
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pickle
MU
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11/30 11:11:49
of course there are - there is one buyer in any location (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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11/30 10:39:22
The monopoly exists at the point of purchase
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 10:38:04
Makes it a lot easier for a special fire district to afford
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:29:30
You are very limited in your thinking
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:33:54
Fine. Then go to your local govt and propose it.
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 09:38:13
This is another example of your limited thinking(nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/30 09:48:00
RE: This is another example of your limited thinking(nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 11:07:31
I don't click those links
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pickle
MU
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11/30 11:12:34
Pity (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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11/30 11:23:55
Neither do jumbo jets. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:27:25
Tradition
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ummmm
MU
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11/30 09:23:08
you mean his mom’s house?
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Ferg
STL
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11/30 09:13:58
No one. Cardboard boxes burn pretty quickly.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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11/30 09:13:57
He has answered this question many times
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Sal
KC
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11/30 09:12:22
He would start his own private fire department (nm)
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MrBlueSky
MU
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11/30 09:10:11
No, he would walk away. That fire has rights.(nm)
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tcat
UMKC
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11/30 09:10:58