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Smith v. Maryland shows that the conviction will not be

Posted on: November 28, 2017 at 17:36:35 CT
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overturned and that no warrant is required to see what phone numbers he dialed or where he was when hi dialed those numbers...

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"...This claim must be rejected. First, we doubt that people in general entertain any actual expectation of privacy in the numbers they dial. All telephone users realize that they must "convey" phone numbers to the telephone company, since it is through telephone company switching equipment that their calls are completed. All subscribers realize, moreover, that the phone company has facilities for making permanent records of the numbers they dial, for they see a list of their long-distance (toll) calls on their monthly bills.....

....Telephone users, in sum, typically know that they must convey numerical information to the phone company; that the phone company has facilities for recording this information; and that the phone company does in fact record this information for a variety of legitimate business purposes. Although subjective expectations cannot be scientifically gauged, it is too much to believe that telephone subscribers, under these circumstances, harbor any general expectation that the numbers they dial will remain secret...."
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     Smith v. Maryland shows that the conviction will not be - Spanky KU - 11/28 17:36:35
          Those are the arguments of the plaintiff, correct? - DC Jayhawk KU - 11/28 18:48:01
          I entertain expectations of privacy in the numbers I dial - pickle MU - 11/28 18:08:13
               You would be wrong. Your expectations are ill placed - Spanky KU - 11/28 18:35:08
                    How am I wrong? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/28 20:17:56
                    His expectations are his expectations. - ummmm MU - 11/28 18:39:39
                         That would be a mistake on his part. The law works - Spanky KU - 11/28 18:57:04
                              What mistake am I making? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/28 20:18:28
                              What would be a mistake? I didn't note any actions on - ummmm MU - 11/28 19:09:44
          I entertain an actual expectation of privacy in the - ummmm MU - 11/28 17:44:54
               You should not have (at least since 1979) - Spanky KU - 11/28 17:59:44
                    That's weird. Why would my expectation of privacy be up to - ummmm MU - 11/28 18:04:30
                         If you were to claim you felt cooking meth in your front - Spanky KU - 11/28 18:07:51
                              I wouldn't personally expect privacy in that regard. - ummmm MU - 11/28 18:33:21
                              those cucumbers are special - FootballRefugee MU - 11/28 18:15:56
                              RE: If you were to claim you felt cooking meth in your front - mizzoumurfkc MU - 11/28 18:12:37
                                   Nope.. spot on comparison - Spanky KU - 11/28 18:34:33
                                        'there is ZERO expectation of privacy of any number you dial - JeffB MU - 11/28 23:09:15
                                        you're an idiot, and that's being kind (nm) - pickle MU - 11/28 20:17:28
                                        RE: Nope.. spot on comparison - mizzoumurfkc MU - 11/28 19:05:16
                                        Why even call it "expectation of privacy" then? - ummmm MU - 11/28 18:37:16
                                             Because that's what 'no expectation of privacy' means - Spanky KU - 11/28 19:01:48
                                                  Well, that post didn't even begin to address my - ummmm MU - 11/28 19:10:47
                              Stop trying to change subject (nm) - pickle MU - 11/28 18:09:11
          But it's not just the numbers being dialed, but movements - JeffB MU - 11/28 17:42:02
               I get that. I doubt there is any REASONABLE person - Spanky KU - 11/28 18:05:09
                    It is government monitoring of people's movements, who they - JeffB MU - 11/28 18:10:21




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