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Posted on: November 21, 2017 at 10:17:07 CT
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The legality of the invasion and occupation of Iraq has been widely debated since the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Poland and a coalition of other countries launched the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The then United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan stated in September 2004 that: "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter. From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it [the war] was illegal", explicitly declaring that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal.[1][2]

Political leaders of the US and UK have claimed that the war was legal;[citation needed] however, legal experts, including John Chilcot, who, acting as chairman for the British public inquiry into Iraq, also known as the Iraq Inquiry, led an investigation with hearings from 24 November 2009 to 2 February 2011, concluded that the process of identifying the legal basis for the invasion of Iraq was unsatisfactory and that the actions of the US and the UK have undermined the authority of the United Nations. International leaders such as Russian President Vladimir Putin[3][4] and Deputy Prime Minister to Tony Blair John Prescott,[5] have also argued that the invasion of Iraq lacked legality as examples.

"The use of force abroad, according to existing international laws, can only be sanctioned by the United Nations. This is the international law. Everything that is done without the UN Security Council's sanction cannot be recognised as fair or justified" - Quote, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Televised conference before James bakers meeting. 19/12/20-3[6][3]

US and UK officials have argued that existing UN Security Council resolutions related to the 1991 Gulf War and the subsequent ceasefire (660, 678), and to later inspections of Iraqi weapons programs (1441), had already authorized the invasion.[7] Critics of the invasion have challenged both of these assertions, arguing that an additional Security Council resolution, which the US and UK failed to obtain, would have been necessary to specifically authorize the invasion.[1][8][9]
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More government lies. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:07:58
     I am old enough to remember the body count games in vietnam - Knucklehead MU - 11/21 11:23:08
     Iraq is now free from wmds(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/21 09:22:43
     War is hell(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:12:51
          Especially illegal and unnecessry ones(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 09:25:50
               What is an illegal war??? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:33:20
                    RE: What is an illegal war??? (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:02:18
                         The word "illegal" suggests law - pickle MU - 11/21 10:03:59
                              RE: The word "illegal" suggests law - wiki rescue - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:17:07
                                   You still haven't answered. What is an "illegal war"? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 10:18:37
                                        To attack a nation that has not attacked you - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:23:03
                                             Again, you are ignoring the legal aspect. - pickle MU - 11/21 10:26:04
               which are then perpetuated. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:29:39
          Do you approve of this particular action? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:21:52
               of course I don't approve of civilian casualties - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:24:00
                    is it really collateral damage if they specifically targeted - cnk ATL - 11/21 09:34:03
                    That isn't what I asked you - pickle MU - 11/21 09:30:12
          Yes, don't start one. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:14:53
               Or the US might kick your ass.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:19:22
                    Did you see this thread yesterday? - pickle MU - 11/21 09:21:19
                         Did you? - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:29:42
                              Let me be more specific: did you read the thread? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:31:30
                              Followed by: - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:30:30
                                   Followed by: - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:31:48
                                        Yes, look one more post down in that thread. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:33:39
                                             Try this addition. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:37:55
                                                  You're dodging. Please explain how the US' actions - pickle MU - 11/21 09:40:23
                                                       Fallacy in logic. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:45:13
                                                            I'm not talking about 90's posts - pickle MU - 11/21 09:49:29
                                                                 You're the one that's dodging. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:58:47
                                                                 He has an opportunity to finally learn what "you cannot - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:51:22
                                                                      He won't. He's a carbon copy of Ragnar - pickle MU - 11/21 09:55:41
                                                            RE: Fallacy in logic. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:47:58
                                                                 Innocent until proven guilty. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:55:06
                                                                      That has nothing to do with your misunderstanding - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:59:25
                                                                           Nope. Your example proves my point. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:06:12
                                                                                Oh, so it's guilty until proven innocent then? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:08:10
                                                                                     No. That isn't what I said or implied. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:13:03
                                                                                          You just said that the negative was assumed - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:16:13
                                                                                               "Guilty" in this case would be "guilty of paying taxes" - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:19:10
                                                                                                    Guilty of paying taxes? What on earth does that mean? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:20:57
                                                  Oh, so it was just a bad joke. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:39:48
                                                       One with a point. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:43:14
                                                            it was your buddy Rags who decided, after seeing my - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 09:56:44
                                                                 No. You played the definition game. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:02:46
                                                                      regardless of definition, how can you look at all of that - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:08:31
                                                                           Easy. It isn't "terrorism." - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:15:22
                                                                                Prove something is NOT terrorism - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:47:32
                                                                                It is NOT terrorism? So, it that just assumed? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:27:54
                                                                                I missed the "unless it's the US govt doing it" phrase - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:19:24
                                                                      "when in fact they weren't." - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:05:10
                                                                           The negative is assumed--always. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:10:10
                                                                                The fact is you don't want it to be true - pickle MU - 11/21 10:14:31
                                                                                But under your made up concept - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:13:38
                                                                                     Different subject for a different thread. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:16:45
                                                                                          I'm just using your made up concept that the negative is - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:18:26
                                                                                The negative is not assumed. - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:12:33
                                                                                lol "don't play the definition game" just - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:11:12
                                                            I'm not the one playing that game here. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:46:27
                                                                 You're the one playing a game. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:48:58
                                                                      RE: You're the one playing a game. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:50:16
                         yes that was where 90 demonstrated no understanding - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:26:09
                              "Terrorism" to them is anything the United States does that - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:30:59
                                   You suggested going by Funk and Wagnalls definition - pickle MU - 11/21 09:33:00
                                        Go back to the thread. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:39:50
                                             Please explain how and why the US' actions - pickle MU - 11/21 09:41:09
                                                  Logical fallacy: proving a negative. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:46:45
                                                       you are ignorant of logic, willfully ignorant of US actions - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 09:57:56
                                                            Oh, name-calling. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:14:09
                                                                 now you don't even know what name-calling is, good - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:19:54
                                                                      Not the best day for him. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:21:48
                                                                 What name did he call you? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 10:15:26
                                                       RE: Logical fallacy: proving a negative. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:49:04
          That's why GOP leaders and you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 11/21 09:13:51
               stfu Achmed - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:15:39




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