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Posted on: November 21, 2017 at 09:55:06 CT
Alferd Packer MU
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That's the most familiar application of the principle.

Prove that the US engages in terrorism according to the settled definition of terrorism rather than your own mercurial definition.
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More government lies. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:07:58
     I am old enough to remember the body count games in vietnam - Knucklehead MU - 11/21 11:23:08
     Iraq is now free from wmds(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/21 09:22:43
     War is hell(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:12:51
          Especially illegal and unnecessry ones(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 09:25:50
               What is an illegal war??? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:33:20
                    RE: What is an illegal war??? (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:02:18
                         The word "illegal" suggests law - pickle MU - 11/21 10:03:59
                              RE: The word "illegal" suggests law - wiki rescue - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:17:07
                                   You still haven't answered. What is an "illegal war"? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 10:18:37
                                        To attack a nation that has not attacked you - raskolnikov MU - 11/21 10:23:03
                                             Again, you are ignoring the legal aspect. - pickle MU - 11/21 10:26:04
               which are then perpetuated. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:29:39
          Do you approve of this particular action? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:21:52
               of course I don't approve of civilian casualties - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:24:00
                    is it really collateral damage if they specifically targeted - cnk ATL - 11/21 09:34:03
                    That isn't what I asked you - pickle MU - 11/21 09:30:12
          Yes, don't start one. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:14:53
               Or the US might kick your ass.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:19:22
                    Did you see this thread yesterday? - pickle MU - 11/21 09:21:19
                         Did you? - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:29:42
                              Let me be more specific: did you read the thread? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 09:31:30
                              Followed by: - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:30:30
                                   Followed by: - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:31:48
                                        Yes, look one more post down in that thread. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:33:39
                                             Try this addition. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:37:55
                                                  You're dodging. Please explain how the US' actions - pickle MU - 11/21 09:40:23
                                                       Fallacy in logic. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:45:13
                                                            I'm not talking about 90's posts - pickle MU - 11/21 09:49:29
                                                                 You're the one that's dodging. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:58:47
                                                                 He has an opportunity to finally learn what "you cannot - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:51:22
                                                                      He won't. He's a carbon copy of Ragnar - pickle MU - 11/21 09:55:41
                                                            RE: Fallacy in logic. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:47:58
                                                                 Innocent until proven guilty. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:55:06
                                                                      That has nothing to do with your misunderstanding - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:59:25
                                                                           Nope. Your example proves my point. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:06:12
                                                                                Oh, so it's guilty until proven innocent then? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:08:10
                                                                                     No. That isn't what I said or implied. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:13:03
                                                                                          You just said that the negative was assumed - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:16:13
                                                                                               "Guilty" in this case would be "guilty of paying taxes" - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:19:10
                                                                                                    Guilty of paying taxes? What on earth does that mean? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:20:57
                                                  Oh, so it was just a bad joke. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:39:48
                                                       One with a point. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:43:14
                                                            it was your buddy Rags who decided, after seeing my - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 09:56:44
                                                                 No. You played the definition game. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:02:46
                                                                      regardless of definition, how can you look at all of that - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:08:31
                                                                           Easy. It isn't "terrorism." - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:15:22
                                                                                Prove something is NOT terrorism - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:47:32
                                                                                It is NOT terrorism? So, it that just assumed? - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:27:54
                                                                                I missed the "unless it's the US govt doing it" phrase - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:19:24
                                                                      "when in fact they weren't." - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:05:10
                                                                           The negative is assumed--always. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:10:10
                                                                                The fact is you don't want it to be true - pickle MU - 11/21 10:14:31
                                                                                But under your made up concept - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:13:38
                                                                                     Different subject for a different thread. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:16:45
                                                                                          I'm just using your made up concept that the negative is - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:18:26
                                                                                The negative is not assumed. - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:12:33
                                                                                lol "don't play the definition game" just - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:11:12
                                                            I'm not the one playing that game here. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:46:27
                                                                 You're the one playing a game. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:48:58
                                                                      RE: You're the one playing a game. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:50:16
                         yes that was where 90 demonstrated no understanding - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:26:09
                              "Terrorism" to them is anything the United States does that - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:30:59
                                   You suggested going by Funk and Wagnalls definition - pickle MU - 11/21 09:33:00
                                        Go back to the thread. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:39:50
                                             Please explain how and why the US' actions - pickle MU - 11/21 09:41:09
                                                  Logical fallacy: proving a negative. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 09:46:45
                                                       you are ignorant of logic, willfully ignorant of US actions - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 09:57:56
                                                            Oh, name-calling. - Alferd Packer MU - 11/21 10:14:09
                                                                 now you don't even know what name-calling is, good - 90Tiger MU - 11/21 10:19:54
                                                                      Not the best day for him. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/21 10:21:48
                                                                 What name did he call you? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/21 10:15:26
                                                       RE: Logical fallacy: proving a negative. - ummmm MU - 11/21 09:49:04
          That's why GOP leaders and you - JayHoaxH8r MU - 11/21 09:13:51
               stfu Achmed - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 11/21 09:15:39




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