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Posted on: October 3, 2017 at 11:07:44 CT
ummmm MU
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you believe that as the constitution was being written in 1789 and arms consisted of a handful of things (muskets, cannons, etc.) that the writers intended for all future arms, regardless of their capabilities to be included under this amendment?

I don't believe this. I know that the intended purpose of the Second Amendment was to outright prohibit all federal government infringements upon the private ownership of armaments (which then and today come in many different forms). We are not debating this; I am telling you the intention of the Second Amendment.

And you believe that in 2017, anyone, regardless of violent crime history, mental handicaps, age, etc., should be able to acquire whatever arms they desire for whatever purpose?

I won't make the decision for anyone else. If someone wants and can afford certain property, I am in no position to stop their voluntary efforts to acquire it. That is the difference between people like me (pro liberty) and people like (pro tyranny).
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If a majority of Americans support amending the - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:29:56
     It should have been updated decades ago. (nm) - go tigers MU - 10/3 11:16:40
          There's nothing to update - pickle MU - 10/3 11:50:53
               That amendment, like all the others, can be changed if - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 12:02:13
     an amendment isn't necessary(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 10/3 10:46:59
     Guess I will go out and buy a Bushmaster this weekend. - TheWildcat STL - 10/3 10:46:52
          i really want an M1A. Afraid i prolly will never - justwinbaby KC - 10/3 11:23:17
          I've been looking at bushmaster packages - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 10:54:12
     I agree with you in principle but would argue that it is not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:41:53
          Do you also support the right of North Korea - MizzouRugger MU - 10/3 11:10:48
          Lol. Sad you believe what you just wrote. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:43:13
               What is more sad that I believe the constitution has meaning - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:46:12
               Sad you would use popular opinion to support tyranny. - TigerMatt MU - 10/3 10:46:09
     No. I dont support tyranny even if the majority do.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 10/3 10:40:18
     The 2nd Amendment has been dead for a long time. - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:37:54
          2nd Amendment is working and very alive(nm) - MUGuy2004 MU - 10/3 10:38:22
               No, it's not. - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:39:10
                    correct (nm) - Sal KC - 10/3 11:01:36
                    Not dead, on life support but not dead?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:42:45
                         It's dead. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:43:10
                    Stop the lies(nm) - MUGuy2004 MU - 10/3 10:41:31
                         What lie? The right to bear arms is infringed in many - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:43:38
                              Umm is correct, and it is the only amendment - tman KC - 10/3 10:58:59
                    So you're upset that felons and people accused of - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:40:41
                         Don't focus in on one group of people - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 10:47:51
                         As written I should have the right to buy a Battle Tank - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:44:15
                              Which is why it needs to be amended (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:47:12
                                   So you do agree that as currently written private citizens - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:52:24
                                   So it can't be eroded anymore? - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 10:48:29
                                   Oh this is about tanks? - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:48:18
                                        No, this entire discussion has been about the second - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:54:35
                                             The Second Amendment is simply this and nothing more: - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:58:45
                                                  So as a sane, and apparently rational individual - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:03:47
                                                       Yes and yes, the gvmt should not restrict anyone - pickle MU - 10/3 11:14:09
                                                            Even if the acquiring of that property of for the expressed - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:20:33
                                                                 Could you reword or edit, please? - pickle MU - 10/3 11:24:30
                                                                      That is not at all what I am saying... - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:27:02
                                                                           Yes, I'm ok with that - pickle MU - 10/3 11:42:40
                                                                           You seem to want to regulate people's intentions. - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 11:31:15
                                                                                That movie is terrifying. But I asked a specific question - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:32:45
                                                       Yes! Weapons have changed in ways the authors could - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 11:10:39
                                                            I'm advocating for amending it. The way it was intended - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:17:08
                                                                 If you are advocating amending the constitution to limit the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 11:24:39
                                                                      Not eliminate. - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:27:48
                                                            Lmfao - pickle MU - 10/3 11:15:56
                                                       RE: So as a sane, and apparently rational individual - ummmm MU - 10/3 11:07:44
                                                            I am advocating updating or amending the 2nd amendment - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:12:08
                                                                 You want to strip people of their liberty - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 11:17:45
                                                                      How about in the name of civility? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:19:40
                                                                           What is civil about using force against someone - pickle MU - 10/3 11:43:59
                                                                                If someone is intruding in my house - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 12:10:34
                                                                                     You're missing the point (nm) - pickle MU - 10/3 13:15:06
                                                                                          I understand the point - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 14:03:21
                                                                           If everyone is able to defend themselves - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 11:22:52
                                                                                There it is. More guns=more safety - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 11:28:04
                                                                 You're twisting his words and making a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 10/3 11:15:28
                                        It's about updating it to reflect modern weaponry. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:48:54
                                             It reflects modern weaponry right now. - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:54:03
                                                  You are correct. But I believe that as a society we do have - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 11:20:51
                                                       You may think you are pro Constitution - pickle MU - 10/3 11:36:41
                                                            You may think you understand this conversation but you - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 11:53:18
                                                  I couldn't have said that any better (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 10/3 10:55:33
                         Should a felon for tax evasion lose the right to carry - TigerMatt MU - 10/3 10:43:20
                         Yes. Many felons live in some of the most dangerous - ummmm MU - 10/3 10:42:53
                         Yes, yes. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 10/3 10:41:02
                              At least you're honest, I guess - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:42:11
     Would progressives ever lower themselves to admitting - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:33:28
          I'm advocating for amending. That is all (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:41:21
               My point is that your side would never do that because they - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/3 10:49:23
          They prefer a phone and a pen(nm) - MUGuy2004 MU - 10/3 10:34:07
     I see your Soros daily fax came early. Stop making stuff - MUGuy2004 MU - 10/3 10:33:06
          No clue what you're talking about(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 10/3 10:39:26
               Don't play dumb(nm) - MUGuy2004 MU - 10/3 10:42:09




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