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People die for lies, but they believe them to be true.

Posted on: August 30, 2017 at 21:53:36 CT
MizzouTigerz MU
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If these 11 Apostles and other people knew that what they were saying was a lie, they would not have stuck with the lie unto death. They would not let their selves be martyred for something they knew to be false.

That is the difference. They knew it was true, and therefore were not concerned with trading this life for the next.
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STL1DFW: Show me an extra biblical account - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:33:05
     Contemporary historians did not exist - raskolnikov MU - 8/31 08:17:09
     why would there be any account of it? The Jews and Romans - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/31 00:35:40
          That is crazy talk. So Romans wouldnt allow - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 00:59:06
     RE: STL1DFW: Show me an extra biblical account - 615Tiger STL - 8/31 00:34:53
          Nm - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 00:49:07
               Contemporary Jews see Jesus as noting of the sort... - STL1DFW STL - 8/31 03:02:29
               RE: None of that proves the claim Jesus is God - 615Tiger STL - 8/31 01:00:41
                    Nm - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 01:47:53
     How about some contemporary examples of miracles? - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:00:34
          The Lourdes Medical Cures Revisitedā€  - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:11:21
               Should be testable, right? Where are the - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 22:33:47
                    Yes, there are many examples of cures 'unexplainable by - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:39:40
                         Nm - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 22:59:41
                              You are way oversimplifying. If it was a single case of some - JeffB MU - 8/31 08:59:45
          The Shroud of Turin and the Facts... - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:06:40
               Lol.. long debunked(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 22:19:54
                    No. Scientists have revisited earlier conclusions. - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:21:34
                         Have you studied the tahara? A jew would never have been - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 22:56:26
                              I don't think you have read much about it. There IS a - JeffB MU - 8/31 09:04:30
                              Pure conjecture(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/31 00:56:56
                                   Documented history, unlike your fairy tales.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 01:00:30
                                        You've made up some fairy tales alright to try & cope.. - STL1DFW STL - 8/31 02:06:40
                         Careful. He'll want you to spoon feed all of it to him(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:27:07
          Eucharistic miracles have left physical evidenice in a - JeffB MU - 8/30 22:03:36
               I can find sites saying bigfoot is real. So what? - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 23:12:48
     Start here monkey-butt šŸµ..... - mattieo86 MU - 8/30 21:58:19
          Nothing contemporary. Bringing up crucifixion darkness - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 23:59:29
     Good luck with your struggle! Without the current - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 21:54:33
          Lol... so stupid.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:57:14
               I'm convinced you are. You don't have to plead with me - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:00:33
     RE: STL1DFW: Show me an extra biblical account - Uncle Fester USMC - 8/30 21:45:24
     Luke 16:31 - TigerFan92 MU - 8/30 21:42:08
          Why would I believe the bible over Homer's - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:54:07
               ^^Yes, he's this dumb(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:01:46
          People die for lies, but they believe them to be true. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/30 21:53:36
               A lot of true believers die. That isnt proof - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:55:54
                    umm they died for what they literally saw(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 8/31 11:12:15
          Extrabiblical means "outside the Bible". nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/30 21:42:59
               You will never be convinced. Enjoy - TigerFan92 MU - 8/30 21:44:40
     God doesn't have to prove anything to you. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/30 21:40:08
          then why do you spend your life providing justifications, ev - 90Tiger MU - 8/30 21:57:17
               Why are you threatened by it & always feel a need to attack - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:07:29
                    Christianity is founded on faith, but bizarre people like - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 02:00:59
                         Now you're just lashing out & projecting after failing so - STL1DFW STL - 8/31 02:12:46
          Nm - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:49:55
               What part of End of discussion. did you not understand? - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/30 21:54:54
                    Typical tuck tail and run.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:56:15
                         It's really more a case of you failing miserably(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:18:04
                              You hsvent offered a shred of evidence.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/31 00:01:00
                                   I proved it rather quickly & easily. The rest has been just - STL1DFW STL - 8/31 00:42:59
          You can't argue with religious zealots. Evidence doesn't - SparkyStalcup MU - 8/30 21:43:52
               You can't argue with Evidence - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/30 21:49:08
                    No evidence of Jesus' miracles. See my original - TigerMatt MU - 8/30 21:51:11
                         What evidence would there be if you were not present... - STL1DFW STL - 8/30 22:25:02
               And the same goes for Anti Religious Zealots - Uncle Fester USMC - 8/30 21:48:57




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