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no, he doesn't believe in a "right to pollute", that's

Posted on: August 23, 2017 at 13:27:54 CT
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a false statement. (your false premise here is thinking pickle doesn't support a property owner's right to keep his property unpolluted if he owns it, again, you think govt has property rights and that land is communally owned, another false premise)


no, he believes if someone makes first-use to land, they have first-rights. (your false premise here is that government has property rights)

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Libertarianism - pickle MU - 8/23 13:04:52
     IOW, a person struck blind, and some are almost overnight, - GA Tiger MU - 8/23 14:24:14
          You did it - pickle MU - 8/23 15:13:35
               Family, friends, charity, insurance, etc all disappear - TigerMatt MU - 8/23 16:27:16
          those are certainly other words (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/23 14:27:10
     What about instances of mass (thousands/millions) human - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:29:27
          your question isn't a question despite having a question - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:54:13
               Your answer is what was expected. No ability to answer, - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:57:24
                    What was your question? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:58:33
                         Ha! Too good....amazingly funny(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 14:05:05
                              what was your question? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:07:34
     Ok...F with me once and you get it twice as bad - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/23 13:25:01
          Are you referring to US interventionism - pickle MU - 8/23 13:26:26
               I'm referring to whover decides to pick a fight (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/23 13:27:40
                    Is there something that prevents you - pickle MU - 8/23 13:47:24
          when people F with you now, you just let them? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:25:33
               I'm not a libertarian, I tend to be proactive instead of - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/23 13:27:12
                    What do you mean by proactive? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/23 13:36:28
                    so you support aggressing against others based on - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:28:54
                         If you see a bomb being built, and someone saying it's - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/23 13:29:47
                              If someone threatens you directly like that, you can - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:32:33
                                   Is the materializing of a threat a threat or is it only a - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:37:46
                                        no, if you threaten to kill me, it is an act of aggression. - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:46:18
                                             Ha! So dumb! Delineating between "nations" & "people" - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:54:38
                                                  That's all well and good, but what do you call that armless - Emoji Man MSU - 8/23 14:36:54
                                                  The most simple of concepts go right over - TigerMatt MU - 8/23 13:57:17
                                                       ^^The dumb gather hoping numbers will make them - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:59:41
                                                            vapid (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:10:11
                                                                 Yes you are! Without a shred of education or intelligence to - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 17:36:42
                                                                      vapid (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 19:23:47
                                                  people have rights, nations don't. this is - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:56:49
                                                       Nations make up people. Some of the people of Idiots... - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 14:02:05
                                                            "nations make up people" - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:09:22
                                                                 ^^More insane psychobabble based on a fantasy to - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 17:44:13
                                                                      vapid (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 19:24:04
                              All of this is moot, if people live and let live. I'd love - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/23 13:30:59
     Yes but you yourself don't believe in: - JG A - 8/23 13:15:42
          Seems weird that one person can tell another person - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 8/23 13:22:23
               Cause I can understand what I read - JG A - 8/23 13:25:13
          of course he does. make your case that he doesn't. - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:18:33
               He believes people have the right to pollute - JG A - 8/23 13:23:13
                    There is no such thing as "the right to pollute" (nm) - pickle MU - 8/23 13:31:25
                         EXACTLY - JG A - 8/23 13:35:26
                              "He believes people have the right to pollute" - JG (nm) - pickle MU - 8/23 13:38:42
                                   EXACTLY AGAIN - JG A - 8/23 13:39:37
                                        No, you built a nice strawman.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 8/23 13:52:53
                                             Nope , nailed it as I do - JG A - 8/23 13:57:22
                                                  Sure, but pickle doesn't believe you can dump toxic - TigerMatt MU - 8/23 14:17:06
                                                       He says he doesn't but in essence he does - JG A - 8/23 14:20:17
                                                            no, he doesn't (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:41:05
                    no, he doesn't believe in a "right to pollute", that's - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:27:54
                         His dishonesty and psychoses are tired - pickle MU - 8/23 13:32:33
                              LOL PIckleiny - JG A - 8/23 13:36:36
                              yes (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:32:49
                         Yes he does as he has proven on numerous occassions - JG A - 8/23 13:29:27
                              no, Jg. you think govt has property rights, pickle does not - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:30:54
                                   What Property Rights can an individual create & what if - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:42:15
                                        are you advancing to dispute resolution or law enforcment - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:49:45
                                             Lol, as already known. You are so lost, but at least your - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 14:03:52
                                                  vapid (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:09:57
                                                       ^^What the feebleminded have to try & tell themselves... - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 17:47:09
                                   Sure you're entitled to your delusions - JG A - 8/23 13:38:36
                                        my delusion? I shared his direct quote (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:54:52
                                             You don't agree - JG A - 8/23 14:01:01
     Question, wouldnt liable or slander be considered fraud - hefeweizen MU - 8/23 13:12:54
          no, you don't take the property of someone if you libel - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:15:55
               Lol! What the ignorant have to feed themselves to - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:39:00
               That explains your eagerness to lie - JG A - 8/23 13:17:56
          That's an excellent question - pickle MU - 8/23 13:15:18
               Lol! Your stupidity has no bounds!(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:24:46
                    RE: Lol! Your stupidity has no bounds!(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:29:33
                         RE: Lol! Your stupidity has no bounds!(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:39:59
               what if said slander kept a person from getting a job - hefeweizen MU - 8/23 13:22:35
                    The job belongs to the employer, not the employee - pickle MU - 8/23 13:27:32
                         Lol, you just make crap up on the run. How did the - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:34:00
                         ok, that makes sense. So there are just sh*t sandwiches - hefeweizen MU - 8/23 13:31:01
                              yes, but that's no different than today, really. Who are - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:34:02
                              I wouldn't put it like that, but yes (nm) - pickle MU - 8/23 13:33:44
                                   "Yes, I agree with what you put but wouldn't put it that - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:44:17
                    That would imply that said person had a property right - ummmm MU - 8/23 13:26:42
                    A lawsuit could be filed and fought out in court - Gaseous Clay MU - 8/23 13:25:32
                         but, according to what pickle just said, defamation isnt - hefeweizen MU - 8/23 13:28:13
                              It isn't. No one is going to be jailed for defamation. - Gaseous Clay MU - 8/23 13:30:16
                                   Criminal Defamation exists. States have Criminal Defamation - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 13:49:08
                                        I'm referring to hypothetical libertarian society(nm) - Gaseous Clay MU - 8/23 13:52:07
                                             Alright(nm) - STL1DFW STL - 8/23 14:04:29
                                   Good question. I shall await the answer(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 8/23 13:31:39
                                        RE: Good question. I shall await the answer(nm) - Gaseous Clay MU - 8/23 13:42:21
     Oh, you mean in the world that doesn't exist - raskolnikov MU - 8/23 13:11:49
          Huh? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/23 13:16:13
          those things don't exist in this world? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:14:45
     Really controversial stuff there (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/23 13:07:51
          I can see why 615 is so angry about it and wants to g - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:09:10
               Do you plan to justify your charge of liar, below? nm - hokie VT - 8/23 13:11:59
                    Sure. You don't have a libertarian streak and you - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:14:09
                         As with JG, someone who disagrees with you is a - hokie VT - 8/23 13:17:21
                              Pay attention lying POS - JG A - 8/23 13:27:29
                                   I figured you would see my post as an opening to further - hokie VT - 8/23 13:29:50
                                        LOL thats really the best part - JG A - 8/23 13:37:23
                              Couldn't care less about your motives, real or imagined - pickle MU - 8/23 13:19:27
                              No, hokie, you have a full posting history as evidence - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:19:05
                                   Well of course. You know me better than i do. And if i - hokie VT - 8/23 13:20:10
                                        I'm not claiming to "know you". I'm basing my assessment an - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:21:21
                                             And your basis is your own filter and biases. Seriously, - hokie VT - 8/23 13:27:49
                                                  because "you" to me, is your identity here, that's why (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 13:34:51
                                                       Aaha. What? nm - hokie VT - 8/23 13:46:37
                                                            everything i say about "you" is the "you" presented to me - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:00:28
                                                                 But your charge of LIAR is not limited to your opinion - hokie VT - 8/23 14:06:32
                                                                      You lied and you are a liar - pickle MU - 8/23 15:21:57
                                                                      i wouldn't hold my breath, hokie , and grow up. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/23 14:10:53
                                                                           I wasn't planning to await a grown up acknowledgement. I - hokie VT - 8/23 14:16:16
               He's a "social contract" guy - pickle MU - 8/23 13:11:06




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