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But we put these leaders in power

Posted on: August 22, 2017 at 16:33:35 CT
DevilsAdvocate KC
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to have the police that work for them.

I just don't think people can handle the freedom you speak of.

It seems circular to me.

Again you are optimistic.
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Individual Facts Matter! - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 15:20:46
     "have to put up with" (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 15:39:03
          Does that scare you? (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/22 15:45:37
     What is an example of an individual fact? (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:33:52
          A person shooting at a cop being killed. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 15:41:20
               "wrongful shooting" - pickle MU - 8/22 16:08:51
               Okay, so for example, this is definitely not an individual - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:42:40
                    Cops get to shot bad guys when they present a lethal danger - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 15:46:33
                         So, would you agree that this is not an example of an - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:48:56
                              What I am saying is that your tunnel vision is misguided. - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 15:54:41
                                   I am troubled by all murders. - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:58:33
                                        When I see you spending a proportionally balanced amount of - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 16:04:25
                                             You should read the board more, if you don't think I talk - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:07:36
                                                  RE: You should read the board more, if you don't think I talk - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 16:10:53
                                                       You won't listen to my opinions on state agents killing - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:14:36
                                                            The Fairness Doctrine (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:30:59
                                                            I won't respect agenda pushing at the expense of - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 16:24:05
                                                                 You have a general problem/dilemma in mind, but you aren't - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:52:43
                                                                 Is this a god/Satan reference? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:31:45
                                                       In exact proportions? That is an absurd standard for many - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:12:23
                                                            RE: In exact proportions? That is an absurd standard for many - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 16:20:46
                                                                 It's right here: - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:51:17
                                             cops are agents of the state. non-agents killing non-agents - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 16:07:25
          OT Humans have been killing each other for many many - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 15:36:17
               Okay. (nm) - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:41:41
                    The debate seems to be a waste - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 15:43:26
                         I don't believe I've ever stated that I think killings - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:49:44
                              Sort of what I am getting at.. - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 15:51:15
                                   I would never expect to eliminate all deaths in interactions - ummmm MU - 8/22 15:57:54
                                        Do you fear years of imprisonment for being pulled over - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:01:07
                                             Or death. - Evenflow MU - 8/22 16:05:51
                                                  They have gotten that sinister?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:10:27
                                                       Check your premise - pickle MU - 8/22 16:19:20
                                                            Because humans are sinister?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:22:03
                                                                 No (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:32:04
                                                                      But we put these leaders in power - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:33:35
                                                                           Your premises are all wrong - pickle MU - 8/22 16:41:34
                                                                                We have given them consent though - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:42:48
                                                                                     That is incorrect. There is no consent (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:51:37
                                             Not personally, no. - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:05:32
                                                  Yeah I can see that. You are wise not to carry carrying - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:09:05
                                                       RE: Yeah I can see that. You are wise not to carry carrying - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:13:06
                                                            RE: Yeah I can see that. You are wise not to carry carrying - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:14:39
                                                                 Doubtful (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:17:58
                                                                 I doubt it. The war on drugs has had little positive effect - ummmm MU - 8/22 16:16:08
               Humans have been cooperating with each other for many many - pickle MU - 8/22 15:40:31
                    Do you think the dominant driver - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/22 15:48:10
                    It's a Christian value (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 8/22 15:47:39
                         Ok. Irrelevant, but ok (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:14:38
                         It's a human value which christians, and hundreds if not - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 15:49:27
                              Does God exist? - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/22 16:49:08
                                   That's incorrect. Morality can and does exist without a god - pickle MU - 8/22 17:20:34
                    Mr. Optimistic (nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 15:41:10
                         the cooperation and good nature of humans to one another - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 15:48:13
                              Do you think cops are doing their best? - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 15:55:00
                                   Cops are the State's thugs. - pickle MU - 8/22 16:10:41
                                        Akin to the KGB, Brown Coats, etc? - DevilsAdvocate MU - 8/22 16:13:06
                                             Yes, and exactly the same everywhere (nm) - pickle MU - 8/22 16:15:27
                                   cops are individuals, so I don't have any idea. I - 90Tiger MU - 8/22 15:56:58




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