Welcome Guest
Sign In | Register

GOLDEN_MEAN was introduced to "dampen" huge margins

Posted on: December 26, 2016 at 16:23:04 CT
zounami MU
Posts:
72138
Member For:
11.23 yrs
Level:
User
M.O.B. Votes:
0
through diminishing returns. PURE_POINTS does not.

And it's irrelevant anyway, because they both factor in margin of win/loss, as I said.

Here is a description of the 3 models from the BCS era:

"Sagarin uses two models that use 'margin of victory/loss' (Predictor", "Golden Mean") and one that does not (ELO) and averages the 3 in its composite."

That summarizes it perfectly, and is consistent with what I was saying. ELO is obsolete now, and is a non-points-based model that Sagarin was basically forced to add due to pressure from the BCS. When that dissolved, he tossed the ELO component because it's not an accurate predictor.
Report Message

Please explain why this message is being reported.

REPLY

Handle:
Password:
Subject:

MESSAGE THREAD

Maryland sucks (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:30:21
     They played in a tough division and went 6-6... - zounami MU - 12/26 14:37:17
          I would have bet my house that you would bring it back - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:41:35
               You're saying a team that did better than we did "sucks", so - zounami MU - 12/26 14:47:12
                    At least we beat Arkansas (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:51:43
                    Why is that? Can two teams not suck seperately? - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:48:59
                         To be fair, I think it's fairly obvious that your point - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 14:55:02
                              It had nothing to do with Mizzou, 100% honest about that. - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:57:45
                                   Don't lie. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 14:59:14
                                        Give up, Zodiac. He's too dumb to detect sarcasm. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:59:44
                                        You got me - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:59:41
                                             You are so foolish!(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:02:10
                                                  I wonder if he finally realizes you're being sarcastic. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:03:24
                                                       Do you realize that the point of his sarcasm is to make - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:04:12
                                                            The irony is that, by not detecting his sarcasm, it made you - zounami MU - 12/26 15:05:52
                                                                 It's always been clear Cosmo's been one of the top 3 dumbest - STL1DFW STL - 12/26 19:44:04
                                                  Don't forget madly hysterical and upset - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:03:05
                         Fans of 4-win teams should not be saying better, 6-win teams - zounami MU - 12/26 14:54:27
                              So because the football team I like sucked, I can't comment - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:55:35
                                   You can, if you want to look foolish. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:57:21
                                        Keep trolling away douche (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:58:13
                                             Seriously, you need to calm down. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:58:26
                                                  lol the old trolling douche standard response (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:00:17
                                                       No, you're actually hysterical, dropping f-bombs etc. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:00:47
               He sure is touting Miss St though. What a piece of work. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:43:00
                    If Mizzou had just won a bowl game and had a top 20 ranked - zounami MU - 12/26 14:46:33
                         Well Maryland didn't beat a team with a winning record - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:48:57
                              They have a significantly better Sagarin rating and record - zounami MU - 12/26 14:56:43
                                   All because they were blown out by Ohio St,Michigan, and - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:09:36
                                        The margin of those losses were factored into their rating.(nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:10:08
                                             No they weren't.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:14:04
                                                  Is that a FACT zodiac? I like FACTS - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:17:14
                                                       Wrong. That was the ELO component used for BCS, which - zounami MU - 12/26 15:19:19
                                                            Those use scores. They do not use raw margin of victory. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:37:42
                                                                 And by the way, "scores" = margin of victory (semantics).... - zounami MU - 12/26 16:06:03
                                                                      I like how you pretend to know the formula - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:31:40
                                                                           As I've pointed out numerous times, that's why the - zounami MU - 12/26 16:48:22
                                                                                Pointed out erroneously. (nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:58:30
                                                                                     You can't stand being wrong. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 17:00:47
                                                                                          In this instance, I'm not.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 17:01:52
                                                                 First of all, there are PURE_POINTS and GOLDEN_MEAN... - zounami MU - 12/26 15:58:28
                                                                      No, I'm referring to both. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:13:14
                                                                           GOLDEN_MEAN was introduced to "dampen" huge margins - zounami MU - 12/26 16:23:04
                                                                                That is incorrect. (nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:32:32
                                                                                     It's correct. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 16:48:31
                                                                 FACTS zodiac - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:45:40
                                                                      vs. your obsolete "facts" from outdated articles. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:59:21
                                                  Yes they were. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:17:02
                                                       You look so foolish.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:18:11
                                                            except that your "facts" are wrong... - zounami MU - 12/26 15:20:09
                                   We would smoke Maryland by four touchdowns (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:58:26
                                        The only thing we can smoke is Del State - DeltfromSTL MU - 12/26 15:45:47
                                        Based on what? Statistically, they are much better. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:58:43
                                             You can ignore the teams they beat all you want. Arky - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:01:39
                                                  Computers don't lie. Maryland is ranked 14 spots ahead of - zounami MU - 12/26 15:04:48
                                                       "They played a harder schedule" - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:06:31
                                                            Thanks for pointing out that I was factually correct. And on - zounami MU - 12/26 15:07:18
                                                                 You have major issues.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:07:52
                                                                      He sounds a lot like Uncle Chester(nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:11:56
                                                                           Well they're both douches, so yes (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:46:39
                                                                      Yes, yes he does (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:08:46
                                                                           At least you have calmed down. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:09:36
                                                                                This thread is like a wet dream for you - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:15:17
                                                                      Because I'm pointing out FACTS? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:08:06
                                                                           Because you're the type of guy to post about FACTS - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:09:22
                                                                                You should try it some time. Facts are good. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:10:55
                                                  Sagarin ratings have them 14 spots ahead of us. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:03:39
                                                       Notre Dame had a tougher SoS than Maryland, and Maryland - zounami MU - 12/26 15:05:32
                              Combined record of teams Maryland beat: 20-52 (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:52:05




©2025 Fanboards L.L.C. — Our Privacy Policy   About Tigerboard