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And by the way, "scores" = margin of victory (semantics)....

Posted on: December 26, 2016 at 16:06:03 CT
zounami MU
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If team A crushes team B (e.g. 77-3), then a scores-based predictor will not like team B due to the scoring differential (many points allowed, few points scored) i.e. margin. You're basically arguing semantics. The margin of loss/victory (scoring differential) is absolutely factored into BOTH components of the Sagarin composite.

I'm not sure how I can make this more clear for you to understand.



Edited by zounami at 16:07:20 on 12/26/16
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Maryland sucks (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:30:21
     They played in a tough division and went 6-6... - zounami MU - 12/26 14:37:17
          I would have bet my house that you would bring it back - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:41:35
               You're saying a team that did better than we did "sucks", so - zounami MU - 12/26 14:47:12
                    At least we beat Arkansas (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:51:43
                    Why is that? Can two teams not suck seperately? - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:48:59
                         To be fair, I think it's fairly obvious that your point - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 14:55:02
                              It had nothing to do with Mizzou, 100% honest about that. - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:57:45
                                   Don't lie. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 14:59:14
                                        Give up, Zodiac. He's too dumb to detect sarcasm. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:59:44
                                        You got me - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:59:41
                                             You are so foolish!(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:02:10
                                                  I wonder if he finally realizes you're being sarcastic. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:03:24
                                                       Do you realize that the point of his sarcasm is to make - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:04:12
                                                            The irony is that, by not detecting his sarcasm, it made you - zounami MU - 12/26 15:05:52
                                                                 It's always been clear Cosmo's been one of the top 3 dumbest - STL1DFW STL - 12/26 19:44:04
                                                  Don't forget madly hysterical and upset - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:03:05
                         Fans of 4-win teams should not be saying better, 6-win teams - zounami MU - 12/26 14:54:27
                              So because the football team I like sucked, I can't comment - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:55:35
                                   You can, if you want to look foolish. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:57:21
                                        Keep trolling away douche (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:58:13
                                             Seriously, you need to calm down. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:58:26
                                                  lol the old trolling douche standard response (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:00:17
                                                       No, you're actually hysterical, dropping f-bombs etc. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:00:47
               He sure is touting Miss St though. What a piece of work. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:43:00
                    If Mizzou had just won a bowl game and had a top 20 ranked - zounami MU - 12/26 14:46:33
                         Well Maryland didn't beat a team with a winning record - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:48:57
                              They have a significantly better Sagarin rating and record - zounami MU - 12/26 14:56:43
                                   All because they were blown out by Ohio St,Michigan, and - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:09:36
                                        The margin of those losses were factored into their rating.(nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:10:08
                                             No they weren't.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:14:04
                                                  Is that a FACT zodiac? I like FACTS - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:17:14
                                                       Wrong. That was the ELO component used for BCS, which - zounami MU - 12/26 15:19:19
                                                            Those use scores. They do not use raw margin of victory. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:37:42
                                                                 And by the way, "scores" = margin of victory (semantics).... - zounami MU - 12/26 16:06:03
                                                                      I like how you pretend to know the formula - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:31:40
                                                                           As I've pointed out numerous times, that's why the - zounami MU - 12/26 16:48:22
                                                                                Pointed out erroneously. (nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:58:30
                                                                                     You can't stand being wrong. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 17:00:47
                                                                                          In this instance, I'm not.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 17:01:52
                                                                 First of all, there are PURE_POINTS and GOLDEN_MEAN... - zounami MU - 12/26 15:58:28
                                                                      No, I'm referring to both. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:13:14
                                                                           GOLDEN_MEAN was introduced to "dampen" huge margins - zounami MU - 12/26 16:23:04
                                                                                That is incorrect. (nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 16:32:32
                                                                                     It's correct. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 16:48:31
                                                                 FACTS zodiac - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:45:40
                                                                      vs. your obsolete "facts" from outdated articles. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:59:21
                                                  Yes they were. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:17:02
                                                       You look so foolish.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:18:11
                                                            except that your "facts" are wrong... - zounami MU - 12/26 15:20:09
                                   We would smoke Maryland by four touchdowns (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 14:58:26
                                        The only thing we can smoke is Del State - DeltfromSTL MU - 12/26 15:45:47
                                        Based on what? Statistically, they are much better. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 14:58:43
                                             You can ignore the teams they beat all you want. Arky - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:01:39
                                                  Computers don't lie. Maryland is ranked 14 spots ahead of - zounami MU - 12/26 15:04:48
                                                       "They played a harder schedule" - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:06:31
                                                            Thanks for pointing out that I was factually correct. And on - zounami MU - 12/26 15:07:18
                                                                 You have major issues.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:07:52
                                                                      He sounds a lot like Uncle Chester(nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/26 15:11:56
                                                                           Well they're both douches, so yes (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:46:39
                                                                      Yes, yes he does (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:08:46
                                                                           At least you have calmed down. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:09:36
                                                                                This thread is like a wet dream for you - Cosmo MU - 12/26 15:15:17
                                                                      Because I'm pointing out FACTS? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:08:06
                                                                           Because you're the type of guy to post about FACTS - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:09:22
                                                                                You should try it some time. Facts are good. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/26 15:10:55
                                                  Sagarin ratings have them 14 spots ahead of us. - zodiac6 JC - 12/26 15:03:39
                                                       Notre Dame had a tougher SoS than Maryland, and Maryland - zounami MU - 12/26 15:05:32
                              Combined record of teams Maryland beat: 20-52 (nm) - Cosmo MU - 12/26 14:52:05




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