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Parallels between MAGA supporters and Scientologists

Posted on: July 23, 2025 at 19:29:41 CT
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It's natural to observe distinct group behaviors and leadership dynamics within various social and political movements. When looking at the fervent support for Donald J. Trump and the enduring commitment of Scientologists, a deeper, more serious examination reveals some notable, albeit often uncomfortable, parallels in how these groups function and maintain cohesion. This isn't about judgment, but about understanding human behavior in collective action.
Here are a few areas where comparisons can be drawn, inviting a more analytical discussion:

1. The Centrality of the Charismatic Leader:
* L. Ron Hubbard: Scientology was founded and defined by Hubbard's personal revelations and teachings. His authority was absolute, and adherence to his "tech" was inextricably linked to his person. The movement revolved around his intellectual and spiritual leadership.
* Donald J. Trump: The MAGA movement is largely identified with Donald Trump himself. His rallies, policy positions, and even the movement's core identity are deeply intertwined with his persona. Loyalty to the movement often translates directly to personal loyalty to him, rather than solely to a party or an ideology.
* Analysis: Both figures effectively became the indispensable centerpiece of their respective movements. Their personal charisma and perceived unique insights served as powerful magnets, drawing and retaining followers in a way that transcends conventional political or religious affiliation. This creates a strong personal bond between leader and follower.

2. The Cultivation of an "Us vs. Them" Framework:
* L. Ron Hubbard: Defined a clear dichotomy between "true" Scientologists and "Suppressive Persons" (SPs) or external critics, portraying the latter as actively working against the well-being of the individual and the organization.
* Donald J. Trump: Frequently articulated a sharp division between "patriots" or "the people" and various "enemies" – be it the "Deep State," mainstream media, political opponents, or "globalists." This creates a sense of collective identity forged in opposition.
* Analysis: This binary worldview effectively strengthens group cohesion. By identifying a common adversary, internal differences can be minimized, and solidarity is reinforced. It creates a narrative where the group is constantly defending itself against external threats, making membership feel like a vital stand.

3. Reinforcing Narratives Through Repetition and Specific Lexicon:
* L. Ron Hubbard: Scientology utilizes specific terminology ("auditing," "engrams," "Clear") and repetitive learning processes to internalize its doctrines. This specialized vocabulary helps define the group's worldview and reinforces its unique understanding of reality.
* Donald J. Trump: His communication strategy often employed repeated slogans ("Make America Great Again," "Drain the Swamp") and phrases ("witch hunt," "fake news"). These brief, impactful statements were reiterated frequently across various platforms, shaping the narrative and solidifying core beliefs within his base.
* Analysis: Repetition and the use of a distinct lexicon are powerful tools for narrative control. They simplify complex ideas, make concepts easily digestible, and create an echo chamber where certain "truths" become self-evident within the group, making external information difficult to penetrate.

4. The Role of Perceived Persecution:
* L. Ron Hubbard: The Church of Scientology has historically depicted itself as a target of persecution by governments, media, and other entities, often framing legal challenges and public scrutiny as attacks on religious freedom.
* Donald J. Trump: He and his supporters frequently interpret criticism, investigations, and negative media coverage as politically motivated "witch hunts" or unfair targeting designed to silence him and his movement.
* Analysis: A narrative of victimhood and persecution can paradoxically strengthen a group's resolve. It validates the "us vs. them" dynamic, provides a shared grievance, and can deepen commitment as members feel they are defending something precious against unjust attacks.

5. Demand for Loyalty and Information Control:
* L. Ron Hubbard: Demanded strict adherence to his teachings and maintained tight control over information flow within the organization. Dissent or questioning was often met with severe consequences or expulsion.
* Donald J. Trump: Has often emphasized personal loyalty from those around him and frequently dismissed or discredited news sources that are critical, encouraging his followers to trust only his pronouncements and preferred media.
* Analysis: Centralized control over information and a strong demand for loyalty are mechanisms to maintain ideological purity and prevent internal fragmentation. This can create environments where alternative viewpoints are marginalized or dismissed, reinforcing the group's chosen reality.

These observed similarities are not intended to equate the specific beliefs or goals of MAGA supporters and Scientologists, but rather to highlight recurring patterns in the dynamics of highly devoted groups and their charismatic leaders across different societal contexts. Understanding these patterns can offer insights into the broader forces shaping modern political and social movements.


Edited by TigerMatt at 19:35:16 on 07/23/25
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Parallels between MAGA supporters and Scientologists - TigerMatt STL - 7/23 19:29:41
     with the exception of no.1 all that is true of dems too(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/23 21:42:34
     You are about as smart and/or ethical as Hirono from - Achmed MU - 7/23 19:59:44
          She is one ugly, bitter little muppet. (nm) - Outsider MU - 7/23 20:04:15
     Is that your analysis, or a copy & paste? (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/23 19:47:14
     Summarize please. (nm) - Logan STL - 7/23 19:40:36
          Both are cults.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 7/23 19:42:37
               Thank you...could have said that in a subject line. - Logan STL - 7/23 19:44:54
                    He made the mistake of thinking reading was easy for you nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/23 19:49:24
                         Everyone makes mistakes. ;-)- (nm) - Logan STL - 7/23 19:56:27
          The summary is - AWOLTiger KC - 7/23 19:42:01
               MAGA and JG have more in common than they want to admit(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 7/23 19:43:06




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