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Well.. the Bible does portray marriage as between a man and
Posted on: July 16, 2025 at 00:19:25 CT
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a woman.
But many Christians ignore that men were allowed multiple marriages and given multiple wives by God. So Spanky could be married to woman A. A marriage between a man (Spanky) and a woman (A). Spanky could also be married to woman B. A marriage between a man (Spanky) and a woman (B). Etc.
Leviticus 18 never prohibited sex between two women. So it doesn’t condemn homosexuality as lesbianism is homosexuality. So more research is needed to determine why male-male homosexual sex was prohibited, but female-female heterosexual sex was not.
Most Christians never bother with this. They just accept what they were told.
Romans 1 is an argument from Paul based upon natural theology targeted at Hellenistic Gentiles who would have been very familiar with it.
“20 Ever since the creation of the world God’s eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been seen and understood through the things God has made. So they are without excuse”
Paul was well aware of Greek philosophy having quoted them. He is making an argument of natural theology against gay sex echoing Plato’s Laws (Book VIII, 836c-e): "I think that the pleasure is to be deemed natural which arises out of the intercourse between men and women; but that the intercourse of men with men, or of women with women, is contrary to nature, and that the bold attempt was originally due to unbridled lust."
Compare to Paul:
26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Their females exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the males, giving up natural intercourse with females, were consumed with their passionate desires for one another.
Paul and Plato had no concept of sexual orientation. That people are born gay. They wrongly associated it with “unbridled lust”. Paul shared Plato’s belief that the body’s desires. In Phaedo, Plato believed that philosophers needed to strive to purify their souls from bodily entanglements. Paul used a flesh vs spirit dualism, where the desires of the flesh were against the spirit.
But the point of Paul’s arguments were a rhetorical trap revealed in the following chapter for the Jewish followers of Jesus to point out the hypocrisy of judging others.
There are dangers building dogma out of ancient texts without understanding the literary and cultural context they were written in. These dogmas, lacking understanding, have been used throughout history to attack those perceived to be “other”.
Edited by TigerMatt at 00:21:41 on 07/16/25
But many Christians ignore that men were allowed multiple marriages and given multiple wives by God. So Spanky could be married to woman A. A marriage between a man (Spanky) and a woman (A). Spanky could also be married to woman B. A marriage between a man (Spanky) and a woman (B). Etc.
Leviticus 18 never prohibited sex between two women. So it doesn’t condemn homosexuality as lesbianism is homosexuality. So more research is needed to determine why male-male homosexual sex was prohibited, but female-female heterosexual sex was not.
Most Christians never bother with this. They just accept what they were told.
Romans 1 is an argument from Paul based upon natural theology targeted at Hellenistic Gentiles who would have been very familiar with it.
“20 Ever since the creation of the world God’s eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been seen and understood through the things God has made. So they are without excuse”
Paul was well aware of Greek philosophy having quoted them. He is making an argument of natural theology against gay sex echoing Plato’s Laws (Book VIII, 836c-e): "I think that the pleasure is to be deemed natural which arises out of the intercourse between men and women; but that the intercourse of men with men, or of women with women, is contrary to nature, and that the bold attempt was originally due to unbridled lust."
Compare to Paul:
26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Their females exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the males, giving up natural intercourse with females, were consumed with their passionate desires for one another.
Paul and Plato had no concept of sexual orientation. That people are born gay. They wrongly associated it with “unbridled lust”. Paul shared Plato’s belief that the body’s desires. In Phaedo, Plato believed that philosophers needed to strive to purify their souls from bodily entanglements. Paul used a flesh vs spirit dualism, where the desires of the flesh were against the spirit.
But the point of Paul’s arguments were a rhetorical trap revealed in the following chapter for the Jewish followers of Jesus to point out the hypocrisy of judging others.
There are dangers building dogma out of ancient texts without understanding the literary and cultural context they were written in. These dogmas, lacking understanding, have been used throughout history to attack those perceived to be “other”.
Edited by TigerMatt at 00:21:41 on 07/16/25
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Well.. the Bible does portray marriage as between a man and - TigerMatt STL - 7/16 00:19:25