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100%, Israel has been a very useful tool for America's

Posted on: June 26, 2025 at 17:21:58 CT

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foreign policy in the region, but is it still and most importantly will it be in the future? No, I don't think so. Once America pulls the rug its game over for israel. Its absurd to think Israel runs the USA, I dont think its helpful when people say this. Israel has been smart about knowing it needs the USA and used this to its advantage, of course having many prominent jews in the usa helps. Israel is definitely an american proxy force, no doubt it. I used to find it weird when many American jews would go fight in israel and come back to the usa and live here and go back and forth. I kind of realized its a win win arrangement for both people who have side in this conflict and they can be used to further push america's foreign policy of putting pressure on any country that dare try to lead or change the status quo in the region.

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Israel - Iran - the US - all parties needed an off ramp - MUTGR MU - 6/26 14:35:04

Israel seemed to come away pretty successful - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:02:19

LOL, god knows where you people get your news. Iran - vmissouri MU - 6/26 15:54:09

The US bombed nuclear development facilities. Stop - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:34:42

what? What are you exactly referring to you? When did I make - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:45:55

well - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:48:06

I was comparing it to other conflicts in the region, like - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:50:21

it wasn't anything like Libya or Iraq either. This was a - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:52:43

and this will somehow convince the regime to change? You - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:55:21

who is talking about regime change? Why did you change - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:59:33

Not a fan of the regime but don't believe that war or - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:06:54

I sure hope war nor revolution are required, I - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:09:13

I think America's goverment very clearly has this has the - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:15:06

RE: I think America's goverment very clearly has this has the - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:21:52

of course I know that the US funds and backs Israel. Many - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:17:36

100%, Israel has been a very useful tool for America's - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:21:58

will Iran's leaders ever state that israel has a right to ex - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 19:17:16

I have heard a lot of talk about how tough Iran is - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:58:52

RE: I have heard a lot of talk about how tough Iran is - Seagull MU - 6/26 16:01:38

they can launch missiles (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:35:14

Not exactly, they stood right up to America and everybody - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:00:10

yeah, the US is kept at bay by the ferocity of the iranian - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:36:05

9M people who are basically part of the USA when under - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:46:35

What was dishonest about 9M and 90M? In this thread - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:48:59

Because America is a country of 330 million - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:52:18

you're talking out of both sides of your mouth here; you're - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:53:56

So why is the USA there? (nm) - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:56:12

to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:59:55

the USA is in the middle east to prevent iran from getting - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:09:00

no, i didn't understand your question, apparently. the US - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:11:58

interesting, just doing lots of cool things for lots of - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:16:21

why are you being childish? did I say that? did I imply it?? - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:20:11

Yeah man, they really kept America at bay (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 16:12:40

Why didn't America continue if it was winning? Regime - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:13:40

Because the US didn't want to. Why didn't Iran obliterate - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:36:53

Iran doesn't want to fight the USA, it would take a lot more - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:44:15

Because the US administration and people aren't interested - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:51:19

The USA doesnt want war yet comes to the brink of war - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:53:16

iran and israel have been at war my entire lifetime - either - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:54:37

You don't think Iran and the USA have been on the brink of - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:57:37

conflict, sure. US doing all kinds of absurd regime-change - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:02:02

I disagree completely with your world view but I agree - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:12:36

RE: I disagree completely with your world view but I agree - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:22:00

what's my worldview? oh and if you think if the US leaves - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:20:57

I would hope not, most of middle eastern history has - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:27:52

what's my worldview, btw? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 19:36:18

He's right, the planes came from Missouri(nm) - Calca STL - 6/26 16:13:05

Paper Tiger, look at our planes from Missouri that cant get - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:14:54

B2s from Missouri blow up nuclear sites in Iran - Calca STL - 6/26 16:08:43

And they were ineffectual, Iran had moved all material from - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:10:07

you think the material is all that mattered here? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:37:24

Sure they did buddy - Calca STL - 6/26 16:10:50

Somehow, I keep hearing about Iran being set back and weak - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:12:51

lol(nm) - Calca STL - 6/26 15:55:10

lol you got so excited when the bombing started, you've been - vmissouri MU - 6/26 15:58:56

RE: lol you got so excited when the bombing started, you've been - Calca STL - 6/26 16:03:55

Question for you Sal - meatiger MU - 6/26 15:03:35

The issue is Saudi Arabia would then want one - Calca STL - 6/26 16:28:15

ok? - Seagull MU - 6/26 16:33:30

I don't know - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:05:13

RE: I don't know - meatiger MU - 6/26 15:06:54

Israel might leave them alone? - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:16:41

they will leave Israel alone - meatiger MU - 6/26 15:18:50

Well yeah if they destroy each other nobody - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:22:49

I don't golf but if I did. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/26 15:29:32

Don't worry it wouldn't be bunkers just waste area - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:34:56

lol clowns, golfing in most of the middle east is by far - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:01:44

RE: lol clowns, golfing in most of the middle east is by far - Calca STL - 6/26 16:10:10

Yeah I responded to that article, whats your point? - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:10:56

Just had to bring up your delusion - Calca STL - 6/26 16:11:53

You weren't sent PM's, that was you. Most people here - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:16:06

Riiiiiight - Calca STL - 6/26 16:18:13

Must be confusing to you (nm) - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:20:34

RE: Must be confusing to you (nm) - Calca STL - 6/26 16:22:26

there's a lot of BS in that piece, fyi. it's touting the CNN - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 14:39:32

MUTGR is posting a lot of coping articles - Bosalphus KC - 6/26 15:02:53

It's the lies that matt and seagull embrace. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/26 14:49:40

None of the enemies mentioned have been defeated - vmissouri MU - 6/26 15:49:48

he only listens to CNN (nm) - Seagull MU - 6/26 15:52:10

they know they are losing, which is why they keep repeating - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:04:59

yeah, Israel was doing so well, they needed the US to - Seagull MU - 6/26 15:20:49

it's a country of 9M people. Iran 90M. Puff that chest! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:39:07

Again, whos the dishonest one now? Israel is part of America - vmissouri MU - 6/26 16:48:11

you're the guy saying iran scared the US off, bro (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 16:56:57

Sorry that you're butthurt about it (nm) - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:09:19

did you just turn 12? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:12:18

No sorry, we cant be friends (nm) - vmissouri MU - 6/26 17:15:45

gee, I wonder why you don't get discussions here. - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 17:21:36

I saw that as well - meatiger MU - 6/26 14:40:52

for those of us not leaping to conclusions, it never - 90Tiger STL - 6/26 14:42:09

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