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I can understand the rationale for the tarriffs far better

Posted on: June 23, 2025 at 10:19:34 CT
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than I can for the bombing, but it would probably be along the lines of...

Neither of these is a long term strategy, but rather short term pain for negotiation purpuses to pressure others to fall into line and do what we feel that they should be doing.

The methods require us to do the opposite of our alleged principles, but are a short term strategy that will be quickly abandoned as our negotiating partners abandon their current practices and engage in more productive practices with us, and then we can all live happily ever after.

One big problem with this, is that such as strategy requires one to be coming from a very strong negotiating position with the ability to essentially force everyone else to do "the right thing" and the game of chicken pays off and the powerhouse could then revert to those best practice principles along with everyone else and we could all then live happily ever after.

I doubt very much that the US is in that undeniably overpowering position to pull such a strategy off, and I also don't think that some of the pressure groups influencing Trump actually have those laudable end results in mind. Their goals are more nefarious, and even if Trump could pull this off, they won't go away quietly.

Edited by JeffB at 10:20:24 on 06/23/25
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     I can understand the rationale for the tarriffs far better - JeffB MU - 6/23 10:19:34
     like anything, time will tell is these are good decisions - Fire Marshall Bill STL - 6/23 10:00:51
     You should sit this one out. - Ace UNC - 6/23 09:43:48
          Why? (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 09:56:46
               you got exactly what you voted for. - Ace UNC - 6/23 11:54:30
                    I didn't vote - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 12:52:30
          No, I felt price controls to be a much worse option - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 09:57:13
          JG response(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/23 09:43:07
               no cackling though (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/23 09:44:31
                    right(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/23 09:52:59
          Trump Tarriffs have already generated $72B in revenue for - KCT-BoneTiger A - 6/23 09:36:52
     No, because it’s obvious you’re another whiny dude - Razor MU - 6/23 09:25:00
          Lol, wut? (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 09:57:35
     I was willing to live with the economic mess - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/23 09:22:51
          He has already largely sealed the border, he has deported - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/23 09:25:18
               "deported thousands" lol (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 6/23 09:39:04
                    Would it be better if we say the additional thousands of - Outsider MU - 6/23 09:45:43
               Are these not "boots on the ground?" - glue MU - 6/23 09:37:44
                    Those don’t count - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/23 09:43:50
                         Unprovoked. Don't forget that one - Seagull MU - 6/23 10:41:05
               by annual comparisons, didn't Obama deport more - KCT-BoneTiger A - 6/23 09:31:02
                    So, why do liberals oppose deportations now? (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/23 09:47:50
                         They oppose what they are told to oppose. It’s not - Outsider MU - 6/23 09:49:27
                         do you lump fringe ones as all democrats? (nm) - KCT-BoneTiger A - 6/23 09:48:39
                              I didn't say anthing about democrats - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/23 10:37:40
               He has not deported anyone really - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/23 09:29:05
                    Isreal First. Then America(nm) - Seagull MU - 6/23 09:31:44
                         MIGA X2? (nm) - KCT-BoneTiger A - 6/23 09:32:10
          Please identify "it" and the element (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 09:22:29
               Iran and their nuclear weapon program (nm) - Spanky KU - 6/23 09:24:47
               The world's leading sponsor of global terrorism - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/23 09:23:55
                    If Iran targeted our nuclear sites and struck, wouldn't we - MIZ45 MU - 6/23 09:58:28
                    That's Isreal and they have an illegal nuclear weapons - Seagull MU - 6/23 09:28:29
                         You are dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/23 09:36:56
                              No, I'm right. You're retarded (nm) - Seagull MU - 6/23 10:44:34




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