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Posted on: June 19, 2025 at 10:56:15 CT
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of scripture to understand that the promise given to Abraham is for his Seed (Christ) and those who are joined with him by faith.

This was predicted by the prophets Joel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and Zechariah

John the Baptist previewed this truth when he told the Israelites that God can raise children of Abraham from stones.

Jesus taught explicitly that if you do not believe in the one who the Father sent, then you have no part with the Father. He also taught via parables that the Kingdom was being taken away from the nation of Israel and given to another (parable of the Tenants and the Fig Tree). He wept over his brothers by blood knowing that Jerusalem and the temple were going to be destroyed by God's decree and the nation would be no more.

The apostle John states numerous times that those who do not believe that Jesus is the Christ are an antichrist - this includes Jews who do not believe. He called the 1st century nation of Israel the Whore of Babylon and worshippers in the Synagogue of Satan in his Apocalypse.

In Romans 9 through 11, Paul explicitly states that those who are Jews are blood are not the Israel by promise, they have been torn off the tree of Israel and another people have been grafted in. The true Israel of God are those who are children of faith.

In Galatians 3 and 4, Paul again states that the promise to Abraham in Genesis was ultimately fulfilled in Christ. For those who are united with Christ in his death and resurrection, the promise is to them as well. In a metaphor pointing to the Free Woman (Sarah) and the Slave Woman (Hagar) Paul associates those who are Jews following the law (Saini) and of the nation of Israel (Jerusalem) as the children of the Slave Woman, Hagar, and not that of Sarah, by which the seed of promise was born.

God ultimately ended any covenantal relationship with Israel through the invasion of Babylon, the scattering of 10 tribes, and the destruction of the first Temple but by his mercy brought them back. However, when they rejected his only begotten Son, he sent Rome to destroy their nation, the second/third Temple and to scatter what remained (both in AD 70 and 135).

There is more scriptural proof of this found in Hebrews, Acts, and 2 Corinthians (and in Christ's teachings) that is too long to include in this format.
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Old Testament scholar smacks down Ted Cruz - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 09:37:48
     So does a gay secular Jew... - MUTGR MU - 6/19 11:35:08
     God favors those who reject Christ as his Chosen people - Columbian Gold MU - 6/19 11:03:52
     No he doesn't. He uses weasel words to talk himself out of - MU Diaspora MU - 6/19 10:34:42
          RE: No he doesn't. He uses weasel words to talk himself out of - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 11:23:16
          No weasel words were used.how about a NT Scholar? - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 10:39:56
               RE: No weasel words were used.how about a NT Scholar? - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 11:22:06
                    MU Diaspora is not a crackhead - Seagull MU - 6/19 11:23:04
               So you google videos you don't watch? - MU Diaspora MU - 6/19 10:56:06
                    It was addressed. Modern Israel has nothing to do with - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 11:13:55
                         Wrong again - Spanky KU - 6/19 11:18:13
               The modern State of Israel is an ongoing fulfillment of - Spanky KU - 6/19 10:53:35
                    RE: The modern State of Israel is an ongoing fulfillment of - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 11:31:30
                    dispensational teaching is a modern, American-specific - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 11:19:10
                         RE: dispensational teaching is a modern, American-specific - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 11:50:15
                    No, it isn’t And why are you citing beliefs heretical to - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 11:13:25
                         Stay uneducated(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/19 11:18:59
                              RE: Stay uneducated(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 11:59:46
                                   Dispensationalists emphasize a literal reading of the Bible - Spanky KU - 6/19 12:38:30
     this is a simple and short book that will help many - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 09:59:21
     By Cruz's logic we should also support all the people of - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 09:57:35
          That's not Cruz' logic, it's yours - MU Diaspora MU - 6/19 10:35:53
               it's not - that's why you need to understand the rest - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 10:56:15
                    RE: it's not - that's why you need to understand the rest - MU Diaspora MU - 6/19 12:14:00
                         It literally says the old covenant is obsolete and is - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 16:00:52
                         lol. you're so dumb (nm) - Seagull MU - 6/19 14:56:06
     Genesis 12:1-3 - Spanky KU - 6/19 09:44:07
          RE: Genesis 12:1-3 - sarasotatiger MU - 6/19 12:07:19
          lol (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 6/19 10:34:20
          Read Romans And Galatians(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 09:46:12
               Why? The genesis verse says precisely what Cruz said(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/19 09:55:49
                    Because the promise was made to Abraham and his seed. - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 09:58:15
                         That is your interpretation of Genesis(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/19 10:00:10
                              Also Jesus' and Paul's(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 10:01:01
                                   Nope. The Bible does not state anywhere that the Jewish - Spanky KU - 6/19 10:51:02
                                        1. God's promise regarding the Jewish people/land was - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 11:27:12
                                   So that makes at least 3 people(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/19 10:06:01
                                        you can butt out(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 10:07:24
                                             I’m also a person, so my interpretation should carry - FIJItiger MU - 6/19 10:10:25
                                                  actually it shouldn't - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 10:11:45
                                                       Well I don’t have an informed position so I - FIJItiger MU - 6/19 10:13:16
          Great… nothing to do with modern Israel. The video - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 09:45:02
               Keep dancing. What Ted Cruz said is accurate. - Spanky KU - 6/19 09:54:58
                    It doesn’t.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 09:58:19
     wrong board (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 09:40:07
          You’re on a roll of being wrong. It’s about Ted Cruz’s - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 09:41:28
               It's a religious debate, arguing over interpretation of - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 09:55:44
                    His religious beliefs are being used as a justification for - CulturedDan MU - 6/19 10:00:21
                         And this debate won't alter his belief nor his position. I - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:02:34
                              So just stay out of the thread - meatiger MU - 6/19 10:10:20
                                   lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:22:54
                              it doesn't have to change his belief - Seagull MU - 6/19 10:06:03
                                   I think Ted Cruz is an idiot, but keep yapping about - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:07:25
                                        attempting to shut down discussion is a defense of him - Seagull MU - 6/19 10:08:26
                                             I'm attempting to shut down a religion argument on a politic - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:23:54
                                                  ok, pickle, lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/19 10:28:15
                                                       zero - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 11:03:30
                                                            aww, are you ok?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/19 11:08:24
                                                                 yeah, you? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 11:22:20
                                                                      RE: yeah, you? (nm) - meatiger MU - 6/19 11:28:31
                                                  sure you are, liar (nm) - Seagull MU - 6/19 10:24:50
                    His position is relevant to political policy.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 09:58:52
                         RE: His position is relevant to political policy.(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:02:42
                              Shut down the Poliboard boys. Nothing discussed here - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 10:19:53
                                   the entire thread debated religion only - fact (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/19 10:24:17
                                        Directly related to a political position held by Cruz - TigerMatt STL - 6/19 10:28:50




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