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'Punishing “bad behavior “ is just horrible policy'

Posted on: June 18, 2025 at 11:10:06 CT
JeffB MU
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Enforcing laws typically requires punishing those who break them.

If you want to "fix" things, the better way to do so is to reform, rewrite or tweak the laws upstream, not giving lawbreakers free rein to flaunt them.
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The needed 'immigration reform': - Spanky KU - 6/18 10:23:26
     Remigration of all immigrants and families prior to 1960 - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/18 11:12:19
          illlegal immigrants - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:43:48
               There is no difference(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/18 13:00:42
                    Don't be stupid(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 13:25:31
          I prefer going back to 1776. If you don’t have a verifiable - TigerMatt STL - 6/18 11:24:33
     9) deportation/remigration of at least 100 million - NPDTiger MU - 6/18 10:54:28
     PUNISH PUNISH PUNISH. It is the GOP way - raskolnikov MU - 6/18 10:50:49
          States don't get "rights" on immigration - AWOLTiger KC - 6/18 11:15:59
          RE: PUNISH PUNISH PUNISH. It is the RASK way - Achmed MU - 6/18 11:14:52
          oof - 90Tiger STL - 6/18 11:09:11
          Supremacy clause I guess doesn't matter to you(nm) - Calca STL - 6/18 11:04:20
          Enforce, enforce, enforce!(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:03:43
          Rewarding lawlessness and evil is the Democrats' way. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/18 10:58:57
               Abraham Lincoln attended a mostly peaceful performance - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 10:59:59
                    Proud Boys killed them both - GODZILLA MU - 6/18 11:01:21
                    Boom. You could be an MSM headline writer. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/18 11:00:58
          Immigration is a federal responsibility...nm - bcoop199 KC - 6/18 10:56:14
          Wow. The irony (nm) - meatiger MU - 6/18 10:55:29
          You mean uphold the laws of the land? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 10:54:53
          So you were also lying about being a law and - GODZILLA MU - 6/18 10:54:24
               He doesn't think he is lying...he has a distorted view of... - BandG MU - 6/18 11:07:16
     More victimless crimes - meatiger MU - 6/18 10:43:27
          The US taxpayers and workers are victims of illegal - Spanky KU - 6/18 10:46:43
               RE: The US taxpayers and workers are victims of illegal - meatiger MU - 6/18 10:54:40
                    'Punishing “bad behavior “ is just horrible policy' - JeffB MU - 6/18 11:10:06
                         RE: 'Punishing “bad behavior “ is just horrible policy' - meatiger MU - 6/18 11:16:03
                              You're pushing a blatantly false premise. There are already - JeffB MU - 6/18 13:07:31
                              So for clarity - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 11:40:08
                                   RE: So for clarity - meatiger MU - 6/18 12:07:41
                                        Would you be fine with jailing a drunk driver that is - Spanky KU - 6/18 12:51:58
                                             RE: Would you be fine with jailing a drunk driver that is - meatiger MU - 6/18 12:58:44
                                                  Intent defines if there is a victim?(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 13:26:52
                                                       RE: Intent defines if there is a victim?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/18 14:06:39
                                                            so not an actual victim that was harmed.... - Spanky KU - 6/18 14:14:39
                                                                 RE: so not an actual victim that was harmed.... - meatiger MU - 6/18 14:32:23
                                                                      There is no victim unless you are harmed - Spanky KU - 6/18 15:23:20
                                                  Why stop him? Who has been hurt or what property damaged? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 13:00:01
                                                       RE: Why stop him? Who has been hurt or what property damaged? - meatiger MU - 6/18 13:25:54
                                        What is imminent danger if no one has been hurt yet? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 12:10:44
                                             RE: What is imminent danger if no one has been hurt yet? - meatiger MU - 6/18 12:59:53
                                                  Why stop him? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 13:00:30
                                                       RE: Why stop him? - meatiger MU - 6/18 13:26:45
                                             he can't answer that question(nm) - tman MU - 6/18 12:48:24
                                                  He sure hasn't tried - that's clear(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/18 12:54:56
                    It can be fixed by keeping Illegals out(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:03:10
                         RE: It can be fixed by keeping Illegals out(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/18 11:06:41
                              The cost of illegals is staggering - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:13:56
                                   That’s not the whole picture. - TigerMatt STL - 6/18 11:22:31
                                        Your "study" is about all immigrants. - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:45:31
                                   RE: The cost of illegals is staggering - meatiger MU - 6/18 11:16:51
                                        by not enforcing the existing laws(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:20:47
                                             RE: by not enforcing the existing laws(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/18 11:26:40
                                                  Enforce & strengthen the immigration laws(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 11:45:59
               100% correct. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/18 10:49:48
     What is 'a "Safe Third Nation"'? (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/18 10:31:12
          RE: What is 'a "Safe Third Nation"'? (nm) - Spanky KU - 6/18 10:34:13
               Thanks. That makes sense & would be a good reform. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/18 10:39:31
                    It is akin to Trump's "Remain in Mexico" program - Spanky KU - 6/18 10:46:01
          should be closest nation where you are not - tman MU - 6/18 10:33:49
               Thanks. (nm) - JeffB MU - 6/18 10:38:17




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