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that's a vastly different statement than "it (atheism)

Posted on: June 17, 2025 at 11:37:22 CT
90Tiger STL
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requires faith".

What you just typed i infer to read:

"Man requires faith. Atheists don't believe in God, but they put their faith in something else"

That doesn't at all equate to "Atheism REQUIRES faith".

I will also add that theists don't limit their faith solely to god (or gods), and also put their faith in other things

Hence, the difference left is that the Theist has Faith (in God), the atheist does not; arguing that man must put his faith in something (if not God) seems like a different argument altogether.
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No worries, God will tell trump what to do - playhard KC - 6/17 10:25:21
     What does the Bible say about the Pharisees?(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/17 10:46:48
          That they were Kansas fans? - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:15:53
          RE: What does the Bible say about the Pharisees?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 11:05:42
          RE: What does the Bible say about the Pharisees?(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:54:16
     For the uninitiated out there, Huckabee is asking Trump to - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:42:52
          Which way does Huckabee’s “discernment lead”? - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 10:43:33
               RE: Which way does Huckabee’s “discernment lead”? - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:52:05
                    RE: Which way does Huckabee’s “discernment lead”? - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:57:09
                         And yet what if you are influenced by a lying spirit like - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 11:38:13
               I see, you haven't the first clue what discernment means - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:44:38
                    I do. Discernment would be to ignore loons like Huckabee(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 11:00:17
                         You may be right, but note that Huck isn't asking Trump - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:13:43
                         and instead listen to people who say "israel needs a good - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:05:51
                              Interesting you are white knighting the pro-war crowd.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 11:13:17
                                   I'm doing no such thing, Matt, you're just inferring - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:18:42
                    RELIGION FIGHT ^ (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:48:41
                         Yeah, there's a lot of that going on, isn't there. nm - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:51:26
                              no more than usual. I've found it to be a constant my - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:53:59
                                   We tend to fight about the things most important - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:55:09
                                        sure, but that's a particularly silly thing to fight about g - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:57:19
                                             There may be nothing more important to fight over than - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:59:40
                                                  Yes. As a general statement which I still stand by - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:12:15
                                                       yeah, I know you'll stand by it. to the death (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:19:29
                                                            That's what you believe (nm) - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:19:53
                                                                 no, it's what you just typed, unless you plan to stop - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:24:02
                                                                      Where did I type "to the death" or anything like that? nm - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 12:18:53
                                                                           you now planning to change that stance? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 12:38:30
                                                                                I don't blame you for changing the subject. - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 13:23:11
                                                                                     your post - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 15:21:57
                                                  Muslims align with you: - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:08:56
                                                       I'm not Muslim and neither are you - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:10:23
                                                            did you not type this minutes ago? - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:10:50
                                                  and there you have it folks - the transition from "Faith, it - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:03:43
                                                       Why do you think it could be about anything else? - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:11:12
                                                            lol, gee, ok. Now I'm a fool for not adhering to your objec - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:16:19
                                                            Problem is people thinking they have an objective truth from - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 11:15:41
                                                                 and/or being told what those texts mean by a heirarchy, patr - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:18:13
                                                                 You presume to know why others believe why they do - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 11:17:14
                                                                      I do know. Hallucination or indoctrination. Very very few - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 11:34:27
                                                                           OK, you're just another blind dogmatist. nm - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 12:19:35
     RE: No worries, God will tell trump what to do - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:31:08
     "DONT EAT THE ARBYYYYYYYYS"(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 10:28:50
     Religious people are not known for being bright(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/17 10:27:19
          Weird 180 you have here after your post about Muslims - Calca STL - 6/17 10:49:51
               Good example, what a stupid misinterpretation(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/17 11:05:07
                    You dodge almost as badly as JG(nm) - Calca STL - 6/17 11:11:03
                         he's not very bright and is very arrogant (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:38:29
                              Another one - Calca STL - 6/17 11:44:25
               Feej hates his ancestors more than anyone - Columbian Gold MU - 6/17 10:58:34
          Ironically, that was a stupid thing to say. - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:40:00
          RE: Religious people are not known for being bright(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:36:22
               Current Religious people are not known for being bright(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/17 10:37:33
                    RE: Current Religious people are not known for being bright(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:55:03
                         Sorry, bro, i'm done reading your posts - just saving you - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:57:46
                    something you won't read - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:51:36
          wow. (nm) - SEMOTiger1 SEMO - 6/17 10:29:35
               Hey--he is a TB mod - mu7176grad MU - 6/17 10:57:44
               he fails to recognize that everybody has a religion. - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 10:32:59
                    And perhaps the most blindly dogmatic religion in the world - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:41:33
                         that's an absurd statement. acknowledging that theism - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:47:52
                              Atheism requires faith, too. - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:50:53
                                   No, it does not. It is, in point of fact, the absence of fa - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:56:06
                                        it does require faith(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 11:12:49
                                             okey dokey (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:24:23
                                                  atheism is the absence of belief in a God - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 11:30:56
                                                       that's a vastly different statement than "it (atheism) - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:37:22
                                                            I'm with you there(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 11:49:20
                                        So you've just assumed I have a "need" to attack those who - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 10:58:52
                                             No, you displayed the need to attack me by doing it. There - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 11:05:20
                                                  Words mean things. You presume "need" where there are - MU Diaspora MU - 6/17 12:21:11
                    Yeah but Huckabee is an end times idiot(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 6/17 10:38:45
                         Idiot? or just doesn't have the same faith or beliefs as you - 90Tiger STL - 6/17 10:41:16
                         he is(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 10:39:05
                    RE: he fails to recognize that everybody has a religion. - sarasotatiger MU - 6/17 10:38:29
                         that's included in "the state"(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 6/17 10:39:20




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