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think that DHighlander's analogy is similar to the way the Nazi's started off in their push to power in Germany... through violence and intimidation. Of course things continued to escalate from there, but the mindset is similar in that regard.
In reality, however, the 'progressives' are avid supporters of Planned Parenthood, founded by the blatantly racist, genocidal eugenicist, Margaret Sanger. Prior to founding Planned Parenthood, she was in charge of The Birth Control Review, and had Nazis write articles for it, and the Nazis in turn used some of her literature in their own eugenicist propaganda.
It should also be noted that since the Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision more than 60 million innocent human beings have been intentionally killed in the United States. Most estimates of those killed in Hitler's concentration camps is around 6 million people. The abortionists have already killed 10 times that many here... on average, more than 3,000 deaths per day... more than all of the 911 deaths combined... every day... and the progressives cheer it on... they want government funding for it... they push it on other governments worldwide.
Some excerpts in re: Margaret Sanger:
https://prolifepages.wordpress.com/
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
“…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people (1)
Her disdain for blacks was exhibited in Planned Parenthood’s “Negro Project”:
Margaret Sanger said about her 1939 , “We do not want
word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and
the minister is the man who can straighten out the idea if it ever
occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” [1]
Clarence Gamble, president of the American Eugenics Research
Association, said, “There is a great danger that we will fail because
the Negroes think it a plan for extermination. Hence lets appear to
let the colored run it as we appear to let [the] south do the
conference in Atlanta.”[2] Under this policy, Planned Parenthood of
America hired a full-time “Negro Consultant” in 1944.[3]
The entire operation [Sanger’s 1939 Negro Project] then was a ruse–a
manipulative attempt to get Blacks to cooperate in their own
elimination. (2)
They still target minority populations as evidenced by the fact that almost 80% of their abortuaries are located in minority neighborhoods… and their targeting seems to be pretty effective:
Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than
have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history. (3)
“Several years ago, when 17,000 aborted babies were found in a dumpster outside a pathology laboratory in Los, Angeles, California, some 12-15,000 were observed to be black.” (4)
Given how closely Sanger’s views were to those of the Nazis (5) (6) and the Ku Klux Klan, it shouldn’t be surprising, I suppose that she surrounded herself with admirers of Nazi eugenics programs (7) & that she spoke at a KKK meeting (8), though she said that she had to tone her message down a bit so as not to offend even them.
There is a lot more evidence that overwhelmingly demonstrates that those behind the abortion movement, including, but certainly not limited to Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, have a blatantly racist, eugenicist agenda but this will hopefully suffice for now.
I think that the fact that the Democratic Platform championing a “right” to abortion is in fact championing mass murder is similarly clear and overwhelming. Abortion is the deliberate, often brutal killing of an innocent human being. Even Planned Parenthood has given up on trying to pretend that a fetus is not a human being. They know that they don’t have a leg to stand on from a scientific point of view:
“It might surprise many that there has been an unaltered scientific consensus for half a century that a real, already existing, live, whole human being begins as a human embryo (or zygote) immediately at fertilization. This is a scientific fact – not an “opinion”, or a religious or theological belief. And public policy debates and decision making should not continue to escape that unavoidable scientific fact.” (9)
Dr. Jerome Lejeune exemplified the unanimous testimony of the top experts from around the world who testified at the US Senate subcommittee hearings in April 1980 on the topic of When Does Human Life Begin:
“Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.” (10)
The scientific evidence is quite clear that a human fetus is in fact a human being.
The infamous abortionist Leroy Carhart, under oath in a case that overthrew prohibitions of partial birth abortions, also clearly explains what the goal of an abortion is:
“My intent in every abortion I have ever done is to kill the fetus and terminate the pregnancy.” (11)
So, I think that any reasonable person would be convinced that an abortion is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. Unborn children, of course, could not be guilty of any crime, unless their mere existence is defined as a crime, of course.
More than 50 million innocent human beings have been deliberately, often brutally, slaughtered in this way in the U.S. alone since the Supreme Court threw out every state law against abortion in the infamous Roe v Wade decision in 1973. That is far and away more than all U.S. citizens killed in all of our wars combined! (12)
More innocent human beings are deliberately killed in the United States alone via abortion per day than were killed in all of the direct deaths due to the 911 terrorist attacks! … and the Democratic Party claims this as a “constitutional right”, and even wants to force every taxpayer in the country to subsidize and pay for it.
Some will claim that this is not “murder” because it is legal. A common definition of murder is:
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (13)
But virtually no one would say that nations can deliberately kill (or have others kill) millions of innocent people even if they define the slaughter as “legal”. If they could, no state could be guilty of mass murder, and yet virtually no one asserts that states have been guilty of mass murder throughout history.
The bottom line for me is that I realize that there are valid reasons why people may not want to vote for almost any politician. Most seem to be compromised in one way or another or who hold opinions at odds with our own on one or more topics that we may consider to be important… but, I fail to see how anyone of good will, much less a Christian, could in good conscience vote for anyone who is in favor of a “legal right” to engage in the often brutal slaughter of innocent human beings, much less on a scale of thousands per day in the U.S. alone and totaling tens of millions here so far.
That is far worse than even the evil of racism. Christians would recoil at the thought of voting for anyone who advocated a “right” to engage in child abuse, and rightfully so.
Ripping the arms and legs off of helpless babies is the ultimate form of child abuse. Or so it seems to me.
Endnotes:
1. Margaret Sanger Founder of Planned Parenthood In Her Own Words
http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm
2. Planned Parenthood’s Racism
http://www.ewtn.com/library/prolife/ppracism.txt
3. Abortion, Because Lynching Is For Amateurs
Klanned Parenthood
http://web.archive.org/web/20130214205910/http://www.klannedparenthood.com/History_of_Abortion_Statistics/
4. Erma Clardy Craven, Social Worker and Civil Rights Leader
Black Genocide.org
http://blackgenocide.org/black.html
5. Nazism and Planned Parenthood (Reprinted from the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate brochure)
http://www.lancasterlife.com/NurembergFiles/
6. The Truth About MARGARET SANGER
Black Genocide.org
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
7. American Eugenics Society founder and friend to Margaret Sanger, Leon Whitney, also sat on this panel. Whitney advocated forced sterilization, was published in Sanger’s Birth Control Review, and openly praised Adolf Hitler for his Nazi effort. http://www.lifenews.com/2014/04/02/just-discovered-letter-shows-margaret-sanger-was-part-of-euthanasia-society/
8. Reflections on Roe: When Margaret Sanger Spoke to the KKK
By Paul Kengor – 1.22.15, The American Spectator
http://spectator.org/articles/61552/reflections-roe-when-margaret-sanger-spoke-kkk
9. Cloning:When Word Games Kill
by Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_06wordgame.html
See also her detailed analysis of this question:
When do human beings (normally) begin?
“scientific” myths and scientific facts
by Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.
http://lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_01lifebegin1.html
10. When does life begin? – Senate Judiciary Subcommittee Hearings April 1981
In reality, however, the 'progressives' are avid supporters of Planned Parenthood, founded by the blatantly racist, genocidal eugenicist, Margaret Sanger. Prior to founding Planned Parenthood, she was in charge of The Birth Control Review, and had Nazis write articles for it, and the Nazis in turn used some of her literature in their own eugenicist propaganda.
It should also be noted that since the Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision more than 60 million innocent human beings have been intentionally killed in the United States. Most estimates of those killed in Hitler's concentration camps is around 6 million people. The abortionists have already killed 10 times that many here... on average, more than 3,000 deaths per day... more than all of the 911 deaths combined... every day... and the progressives cheer it on... they want government funding for it... they push it on other governments worldwide.
Some excerpts in re: Margaret Sanger:
https://prolifepages.wordpress.com/
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
“…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people (1)
Her disdain for blacks was exhibited in Planned Parenthood’s “Negro Project”:
Margaret Sanger said about her 1939 , “We do not want
word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and
the minister is the man who can straighten out the idea if it ever
occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” [1]
Clarence Gamble, president of the American Eugenics Research
Association, said, “There is a great danger that we will fail because
the Negroes think it a plan for extermination. Hence lets appear to
let the colored run it as we appear to let [the] south do the
conference in Atlanta.”[2] Under this policy, Planned Parenthood of
America hired a full-time “Negro Consultant” in 1944.[3]
The entire operation [Sanger’s 1939 Negro Project] then was a ruse–a
manipulative attempt to get Blacks to cooperate in their own
elimination. (2)
They still target minority populations as evidenced by the fact that almost 80% of their abortuaries are located in minority neighborhoods… and their targeting seems to be pretty effective:
Every three days, more African-Americans are killed by abortion than
have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan in its entire history. (3)
“Several years ago, when 17,000 aborted babies were found in a dumpster outside a pathology laboratory in Los, Angeles, California, some 12-15,000 were observed to be black.” (4)
Given how closely Sanger’s views were to those of the Nazis (5) (6) and the Ku Klux Klan, it shouldn’t be surprising, I suppose that she surrounded herself with admirers of Nazi eugenics programs (7) & that she spoke at a KKK meeting (8), though she said that she had to tone her message down a bit so as not to offend even them.
There is a lot more evidence that overwhelmingly demonstrates that those behind the abortion movement, including, but certainly not limited to Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, have a blatantly racist, eugenicist agenda but this will hopefully suffice for now.
I think that the fact that the Democratic Platform championing a “right” to abortion is in fact championing mass murder is similarly clear and overwhelming. Abortion is the deliberate, often brutal killing of an innocent human being. Even Planned Parenthood has given up on trying to pretend that a fetus is not a human being. They know that they don’t have a leg to stand on from a scientific point of view:
“It might surprise many that there has been an unaltered scientific consensus for half a century that a real, already existing, live, whole human being begins as a human embryo (or zygote) immediately at fertilization. This is a scientific fact – not an “opinion”, or a religious or theological belief. And public policy debates and decision making should not continue to escape that unavoidable scientific fact.” (9)
Dr. Jerome Lejeune exemplified the unanimous testimony of the top experts from around the world who testified at the US Senate subcommittee hearings in April 1980 on the topic of When Does Human Life Begin:
“Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.” (10)
The scientific evidence is quite clear that a human fetus is in fact a human being.
The infamous abortionist Leroy Carhart, under oath in a case that overthrew prohibitions of partial birth abortions, also clearly explains what the goal of an abortion is:
“My intent in every abortion I have ever done is to kill the fetus and terminate the pregnancy.” (11)
So, I think that any reasonable person would be convinced that an abortion is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. Unborn children, of course, could not be guilty of any crime, unless their mere existence is defined as a crime, of course.
More than 50 million innocent human beings have been deliberately, often brutally, slaughtered in this way in the U.S. alone since the Supreme Court threw out every state law against abortion in the infamous Roe v Wade decision in 1973. That is far and away more than all U.S. citizens killed in all of our wars combined! (12)
More innocent human beings are deliberately killed in the United States alone via abortion per day than were killed in all of the direct deaths due to the 911 terrorist attacks! … and the Democratic Party claims this as a “constitutional right”, and even wants to force every taxpayer in the country to subsidize and pay for it.
Some will claim that this is not “murder” because it is legal. A common definition of murder is:
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (13)
But virtually no one would say that nations can deliberately kill (or have others kill) millions of innocent people even if they define the slaughter as “legal”. If they could, no state could be guilty of mass murder, and yet virtually no one asserts that states have been guilty of mass murder throughout history.
The bottom line for me is that I realize that there are valid reasons why people may not want to vote for almost any politician. Most seem to be compromised in one way or another or who hold opinions at odds with our own on one or more topics that we may consider to be important… but, I fail to see how anyone of good will, much less a Christian, could in good conscience vote for anyone who is in favor of a “legal right” to engage in the often brutal slaughter of innocent human beings, much less on a scale of thousands per day in the U.S. alone and totaling tens of millions here so far.
That is far worse than even the evil of racism. Christians would recoil at the thought of voting for anyone who advocated a “right” to engage in child abuse, and rightfully so.
Ripping the arms and legs off of helpless babies is the ultimate form of child abuse. Or so it seems to me.
Endnotes:
1. Margaret Sanger Founder of Planned Parenthood In Her Own Words
http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm
2. Planned Parenthood’s Racism
http://www.ewtn.com/library/prolife/ppracism.txt
3. Abortion, Because Lynching Is For Amateurs
Klanned Parenthood
http://web.archive.org/web/20130214205910/http://www.klannedparenthood.com/History_of_Abortion_Statistics/
4. Erma Clardy Craven, Social Worker and Civil Rights Leader
Black Genocide.org
http://blackgenocide.org/black.html
5. Nazism and Planned Parenthood (Reprinted from the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate brochure)
http://www.lancasterlife.com/NurembergFiles/
6. The Truth About MARGARET SANGER
Black Genocide.org
http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html
7. American Eugenics Society founder and friend to Margaret Sanger, Leon Whitney, also sat on this panel. Whitney advocated forced sterilization, was published in Sanger’s Birth Control Review, and openly praised Adolf Hitler for his Nazi effort. http://www.lifenews.com/2014/04/02/just-discovered-letter-shows-margaret-sanger-was-part-of-euthanasia-society/
8. Reflections on Roe: When Margaret Sanger Spoke to the KKK
By Paul Kengor – 1.22.15, The American Spectator
http://spectator.org/articles/61552/reflections-roe-when-margaret-sanger-spoke-kkk
9. Cloning:When Word Games Kill
by Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_06wordgame.html
See also her detailed analysis of this question:
When do human beings (normally) begin?
“scientific” myths and scientific facts
by Dianne N. Irving, M.A., Ph.D.
http://lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_01lifebegin1.html
10. When does life begin? – Senate Judiciary Subcommittee Hearings April 1981
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