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'We the States' vs 'We the people'?

Posted on: March 18, 2025 at 20:56:34 CT
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https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/trump-doesnt-violate-the-constitution-any-more-than-every-other-president-in-us-history/

Trump doesn’t violate the Constitution any more than every other president in US history

Donald Trump's understanding of and devotion to the Constitution matches perfectly with an extremely long list of American politicians and presidents, including all four faces on Mt. Rushmore.

...Please note that the federal Constitution begins with the phrase “We the People.” This moniker was controversial even in 1787, because while a convention is a temporary assembly of representatives chosen by the citizens, it is at best only an imperfect instrument of their will. No convention or constitution can be perfect because it is part of an imperfect and fallen world. Yet, oaths are taken, mostly calling upon God as a witness, to follow the rules.

In 1787, it was argued by some of the Founding Fathers that the style “We the People” ought to have been “We the States.” It would have fit better into the Declaration of Independence, which made no pretense of being an act of the people, but rather the “unanimous declaration of the thirteen united [sic] States.” Everyone knew that there was a serious problem with British Loyalists, who by many estimates were a full one-third of the populace.

Furthermore, “We the People” opened the door to “democracy,” a phrase used constantly today, but which was considered pure poison by the Founding Fathers, and cannot be found anywhere in the Constitution.

Indeed, Ben Franklin’s famous admonishment was not “a democracy, if you can keep it.”
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'We the States' vs 'We the people'? - JeffB MU - 3/18 20:56:34
     Democracy is a grossly over-valued and misunderstood - 90Tiger STL - 3/18 20:58:32
          Learning our history & the philosophical underpinnings of - JeffB MU - 3/18 21:09:13
               Yeah, maybe the GOP would stop saying the US was founded - TigerMatt A - 3/18 21:18:09
                    You are diverting the discussion from the topic of the OP, - JeffB MU - 3/19 10:09:09
                    The Founding Fathers were swimming in a Christian milieu - JeffB MU - 3/19 10:06:37
                    yeah, right, there wasn't any of that in it at all. you've - 90Tiger STL - 3/19 06:29:39
                         It’s a claim the GOP makes contrary to actual history. The - TigerMatt A - 3/19 07:27:32
                    RE: Yeah, maybe the GOP would stop saying the US was founded - THEGROVE68 MU - 3/18 23:29:18
                         “Western Christian religion” was heavily influenced by Greek - TigerMatt A - 3/19 07:44:36
                              So are you claiming that Christian isn't really Christian, - JeffB MU - 3/19 09:59:55




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