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"Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice..."

Posted on: February 15, 2025 at 21:00:29 CT
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Some of you never learn.

Earlier someone posted "I'm ready to give Gates the big contract..." (here's the thread: http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19413415 )

First of all, we already gave Gates "the big contract" in 2023 (6 years $25 million guaranteed, which is still one of the biggest contracts in college basketball). And that was following an historically average Haith-like season (Kenpom #57) that ended in a blowout loss to 15-seed Princeton. That was with 2 future NBA players including a first-rounder inherited from Cuonzo.

And we all remember what happened in 2024 with a more typical MU roster:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/schedule/_/id/142/season/2024

It was the worst season in the history of Mizzou Basketball, and boosters took it seriously. They realized that our only chance of competing is to out-talent the competition through a massive increase in "NIL" spending (by diverting some of FB's NIL budget to BB). And the result of that is the deepest roster Mizzou Basketball has ever had – a fact that 'alwaysright' was able to verify statistically: http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=19412758

It's debatable as to whether Gates is maximizing the roster's potential.
What's not debatable, however, is that Gates still has an extremely rich contract that runs through 2029. There's no reason to enhance it, again, one year removed from an 0-19 season. Now, if he has a couple more years in the top 25 to prove that 2024 was *definitely* a fluke, and that he can win consistently, then — and only then — should we consider upgrading the terms again.




Edited by zounami at 22:04:24 on 02/15/25
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"Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice..." - zounami MU - 2/15 21:00:29
     Gates had a top 5 HS recruiting class and some nice - HDTiger MU - 2/16 09:39:26
     RE: "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice..." - Turk Tomich MU - 2/16 06:19:40
     Douche - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/15 22:46:34
          such a low IQ response (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 23:06:39
               Get to reply at the level those I'm conversing with - Gavin Citrus MU - 2/16 12:40:49
     you are worse then a broken clock(nm) - tman MU - 2/15 21:41:30
          Because he’s never right (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 2/15 22:06:32
               you misspelled always (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 22:25:30
                    RE: you misspelled always (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 2/15 22:34:05
     Can you give us the basketball payroll? - Hickeytime MU - 2/15 21:29:07
          You will NEVER get the proof you seek - BlackSheep MU - 2/16 11:18:03
     Hate that he has now fooled you - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:15:07
          You seem to agree with the main point I made in the OP... - zounami MU - 2/15 21:29:22
               His contract is fine - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:33:40
                    so we're mostly in agreement on the main point (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 21:36:08
          "5 of his 6 seasons as a HC".... - zounami MU - 2/15 21:22:54
               Won his conference championship that year - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:23:57
                    with a #197 Kenpom ranking. Then lost in the NIT 1st round (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 21:27:41
                         You are the worst, most tediously redundant poster here. - Macgrantt MU - 2/15 21:29:59
                         What was the preseason prediction? - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:29:13
                              I didn't follow his Cleveland State teams. And at Mizzou... - zounami MU - 2/15 21:34:40
                                   If you followed his Cleveland State teams you would know... - BandG MU - 2/16 02:20:43
                                   How much of an increase was there? - Hickeytime MU - 2/15 22:10:30
                                        Wasting your time - BlackSheep MU - 2/16 11:21:54
                                   So 5 of 6 (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:36:18
                                        0 of 6... even this season, I predicted we would have a - zounami MU - 2/15 21:40:10
                                             It’s not a top 4 SEC roster - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 21:50:56
                              Why let him hook you like a fish. he will persist, never - Macgrantt MU - 2/15 21:32:03
     It's always easy to talk about giving big salaries & bonuses - MU-TULSA MU - 2/15 21:08:37
          finally... an adult replies (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 21:09:18
     7,000 posts a year is quite the low life (nm) - Tiger Strangiato MU - 2/15 21:07:13
          and that's just one of his many many Dhs, posts at 4am - Macgrantt MU - 2/15 21:15:45
               Sounds like the descriptions of a rusty old Terminator(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 2/16 11:24:07
     You post provocative judgements to have people respond - - Macgrantt MU - 2/15 21:04:57
     Your schtick is tired and embarrassing for you" - smoke MU - 2/15 21:03:15
     Just enjoy the win today and STFU(nm) - Ron Swanson MU - 2/15 21:01:41
          That does not fit his agenda. (nm) - go tigers MU - 2/16 01:25:42
          This is a Mizzou message board. (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 21:03:25
               Wasn’t there a game today? - hou4mu MU - 2/15 21:16:49
                    The thread above & below this one are both about Illinois... - zounami MU - 2/15 21:25:59
                         Simply asked if you had thoughts on today’s game - hou4mu MU - 2/15 21:34:53
                              There are plenty of threads below about the game... - zounami MU - 2/15 21:37:07
                                   Was looking for your perspective - hou4mu MU - 2/15 21:47:29
                                        but it's completely off-topic in this thread (nm) - zounami MU - 2/15 21:49:59
                                             Be bold and feel free to sully this thread - hou4mu MU - 2/15 22:06:54
                                                  For Zou every bball win for Mizzou is a dagger in his heart - BlackSheep MU - 2/16 11:30:09




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