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no. there is no mystery. it's pretty clear cut.

Posted on: May 3, 2024 at 10:15:23 CT

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the only "fog" is from people who don't understand the basics of how business works, so they make up wild conspiracy theories.

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Interesting article looking at actual NIL payouts vs - Yosa125 TAMU - 5/3 08:31:58

Are collectives doing anything with a players Name, Image, - shorty MU

- 5/3 09:47:12

It will be interesting when one of the collectives blows - MUTGR MU - 5/4 12:36:32

not really... it's mostly just pay-for-play (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:55:15

Nope. Collectives are the antithesis of what NIL was suppose - alwaysright MU - 5/3 15:04:36

correct (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:55:21

think of the collectives like they're modeling agencies. - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:04:59

why don't you see "NIL collectives" at the pro level? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:55:57

i honestly can't tell if this is a serious question - phrejd KC - 5/3 16:37:51

that's because of your dementia (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 16:50:40

you're naive and have no clue what you're talking about (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:52:55

But are *they* paying the players, and then collecting from - JeffB MU

- 5/3 10:17:00

usually no. the $ is between the brand and the model - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:32:28

But how would they bundle something like that together if - JeffB MU

- 5/3 10:42:13

the agency helps negotiate that and coordinates - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:48:41

That seems way too complex to me in an environment where - JeffB MU

- 5/3 10:59:35

it's not that complex, and yes i have been involved in both - phrejd KC - 5/3 12:45:51

It is so simple - Genco98 MU - 5/3 12:14:34

no, you just don't understand it. if you'd stop being - phrejd KC - 5/3 12:57:42

the irony (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:56:36

I'm not defensive - Genco98 MU - 5/3 13:27:37

oh. i see what's happening here. - phrejd KC - 5/3 13:28:48

Good lord(nm) - Genco98 MU - 5/3 13:31:01

in this thread who is having the conversation, and who is - phrejd KC - 5/3 13:36:08

Multiple times both Jeff and I tried to make reasonable - Genco98 MU - 5/5 08:51:52

It's kind of fog how that works - Genco98 MU - 5/3 10:02:26

no. there is no mystery. it's pretty clear cut. - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:15:23

you're naive and have no clue what you're talking about (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:52:47

I just don't think there are any absolutes - Genco98 MU - 5/3 10:23:48

Yeah, I think things will keep changing for a while. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 5/3 10:28:29

there's shady **** in every business. this is no different. - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:34:57

Yes having unaudited entities collecting large sums of money - Genco98 MU - 5/3 10:50:35

No doubt, but I think this current system is still in flux - JeffB MU

- 5/3 10:48:12

definitley a bit of "wild west" to it now, but that will get - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:55:10

He's has weird arrogance about this - Genco98 MU - 5/3 10:54:09

he has a naïve misunderstanding of what's actually happening - zounami MU - 5/3 15:54:12

it's not weird arrogance. it's an understanding of how it - phrejd KC - 5/3 10:57:37

*misunderstanding (nm) - zounami MU - 5/3 15:54:40

How about a pay versus production comparison....nm - tigertix MU - 5/3 09:02:31

Tough to get that info, but the article does say that they - JeffB MU

- 5/3 09:42:56