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There is no named victim here though

Posted on: March 19, 2024 at 09:24:07 CT

Sal CMSU

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and it's odd that you're now saying you can't really compare civil vs criminal penalties since they're different

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For those cheering on NY's attack on Trump - Sal CMSU - 3/19 07:19:41

A jury bound him guilty - meatiger MU - 3/19 08:59:25

it is a civil trial not criminal. What is being prohibited - tman MU - 3/19 11:38:40

You is dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/19 09:15:14

Good grief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:07:51

there was no jury in that civil case (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:01:54

There was on the EJean Carroll $83M one (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 3/19 10:11:49

not a jury of his peers - Coors4bob STL - 3/19 11:51:55

RE: there was no jury in that civil case (nm) - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:04:17

What rules are those? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:06:32

RE: What rules are those? (nm) - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:09:29

Clearly things are different between civil and criminal - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:11:37

RE: Clearly things are different between civil and criminal - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:18:45

There is no criminal part here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:20:07

Who did he harm? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:19:40

Was he not found guilty/liable for a civil penalty?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:23:13

The judge changed the rules to convict Trump - Spanky KU - 3/19 09:46:47

There is no named victim here though - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:24:07

I did not say they were "different" - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:26:53

So do you consider fines worse than wrongful confinement? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:29:07

it also seems like he considers civil punishment - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:31:05

that is not what I said - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:34:38

So in murder cases - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:36:46

the only way you can "try" to do it - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:42:17

What about murder like the hypothetical you used? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:36:39

I think you started commenting on this case - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:28:29

the payment terms should be between him - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:31:59

That is the issue right now - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:37:39

I am not "defending" NY - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:40:43

You were saying the rules are the rules - Sal CMSU - 3/19 09:42:26

I have no idea - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:44:23

He spoke without understanding the case at hand - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:43:19

Because this whole case sucks - meatiger MU - 3/19 09:49:03

Then that should have been your point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:56:48

the OP was not about that - meatiger MU - 3/19 10:00:59

As long as the law is on the books then yes - Sal CMSU - 3/19 10:04:54

And I think that is dumb - meatiger MU - 3/19 10:18:10

And for times we disagree, I totally agree here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 10:22:16

but my problem is - meatiger MU - 3/19 10:24:34

I am not sure how the Trump case can be changed by law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 10:35:47

Fraud should be mostly civil - meatiger MU - 3/19 10:44:22

That is what meat and others miss - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:20:56

You may wish to stop now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:10:13

Remember when the left was big on civil rights? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 07:53:03

You're projecting again - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 08:41:21

No, I am pointing out the clear shift away from civil - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:08:54

RE: No, I am pointing out the clear shift away from civil - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 09:10:05

Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:11:40

You're still projecting - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 09:32:15

You are totally avoiding the issue here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:37:22

there you go again - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 09:40:54

Explain in this case who the victim was - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:42:20

He was found guilty. No matter how much you magats cry - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 09:44:48

And you prove my point again - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 10:03:31

That was his fault. He chose to not have a jury - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/19 10:27:56

Nope, he's telling the truth. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/19 08:55:33

Yep - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/19 09:09:44

brownshirts (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/19 08:13:24

They also skipped history classes for DEI. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/19 08:07:31

RE: For those cheering on NY's attack on Trump - BH O'bonga MU - 3/19 07:31:09

They are fighting to save democracy. And you do that of - hokie VT - 3/19 08:06:34

Dems have made the process the punishment. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/19 07:31:06

It is if the person in question is a lib voter. Then of … - Outsider MU - 3/19 07:26:26