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I'm not putting him in the HOF yet

Posted on: January 24, 2024 at 13:57:37 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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but it's fair to say he can navigate the rough waters of the current CFB landscape

and yes, I'm expecting a regression next year but that won't change my mind



Edited by Fire Marshall Bill at 13:58:21 on 01/24/24
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We're dead last in the SEC standings, even behind Vandy... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:12:25
     Gates will be fine. We don't have enough talent at the - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/24 13:46:55
          RE: Gates will be fine. We don't have enough talent at the - Ragarm MU - 1/24 16:04:27
               Do you develop faster playing 20 mpg - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 17:10:33
                    RE: Do you develop faster playing 20 mpg - Ragarm MU - 1/26 09:42:07
                         The question is how much. Court time. - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/26 10:02:35
          RE: Gates will be fine. We don't have enough talent at the - tigrito MU - 1/24 15:58:31
               RE: Gates will be fine. We don't have enough talent at the - Ragarm MU - 1/24 16:06:15
          If you're in all the games and still 0-6 in conference - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/24 14:22:12
               They are overachieving imo(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/24 14:56:30
               Definitely overachieved yesterday with a nice gameplan - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 14:30:12
                    That A&M team last night was terrible. Maybe the worst team - Uncle John MU - 1/24 14:51:06
                         Defensively Mizzou took away almost - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 14:56:26
                              They are good at rebounding and getting to the FT line - SuperTone MU - 1/24 15:08:05
                         still a great loss! You just dont understand.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/24 14:55:08
                              Do those exist? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 14:57:01
                    So then we could get in the WayBack Machine to the - Fred G. Sanford USA - 1/24 14:36:26
          With the talent losses, only a fool would think we'd be just - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:48:17
               Yep just trying to enjoy the season. No expectations this - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/24 13:53:14
                    It's not enjoyable, but not stressful either. I'm used to it - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:54:44
                         I still enjoy watching them play but don't expect much this - Erwin Fletcher STL - 1/24 15:00:29
                              No shyt, what's that all about. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/24 15:12:25
               eh...in this modern NIL/transfer world there isn't much - SuperTone MU - 1/24 13:52:53
                    exactly (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:57:15
                    The portal giveth and the portal taketh away. Crap - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:54:14
                         of coure not but it was still his responsibility.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/24 13:54:53
     Damn dude get a grip(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/24 13:31:49
          RE: Damn dude get a grip(nm) - slamduncan KC - 1/24 13:45:18
     Martin's worse SEC record was 5 wins - Gates needs to go - alstl MU - 1/24 13:28:23
          I'm rooting for Gates. I hope he can turn it around. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:29:32
               His post gamer presser he said the game plan was excellent - alstl MU - 1/24 13:39:58
                    The game plan wasn’t to foul - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 13:45:55
                         aTm shot 37 free throws(nm) - alstl MU - 1/24 16:54:45
                              Is that right (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 1/24 17:04:00
               No you are not(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/24 13:36:37
     The buyout is irrelevant right now.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/24 13:10:10
          Thank you(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/24 13:32:38
     funny this got moved instead of deleted(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/24 13:02:30
          how so? (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:02:49
     RE: We're dead last in the SEC standings, even behind Vandy... - FbCoachJB MU - 1/24 12:58:58
          He or it or they - DevilsAdvocate KC - 1/24 13:34:52
          about that "highly rated recruiting class" you mentioned... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:08:33
     Take your L and go to the basketball board(nm) - tman MU - 1/24 12:51:03
     You look really fvcking unwise to trash Gates - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 12:45:44
          but Drink deserved patience because of his recruiting - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:58:31
               we've already had this debate... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:03:53
                    here's the relevant part... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:05:43
                         He wasn't an elite recruiter before NIL. He never had - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:33:39
                              Are you senile?... Drink had back-to-back highest ranked - zounami MU - 1/24 13:37:38
                                   But it wasn't *before* NIL. Not sure why you keep trying - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 14:44:44
                                        it was before NIL took off... asterisks are for emphasis (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 14:48:50
                                   Drink's had the #4 overall class? Damn I missed that. I - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:39:07
                                        He had our best recruiting classes in football, back-to-back - zounami MU - 1/24 13:41:34
                                             *before* NIL.... - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 14:46:33
                                                  ...took off (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 14:47:33
                                             OK, we'll just ignore a top-4 basketball class, which - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:47:03
                                                  no one's ignoring that, I specifically addressed it above... - zounami MU - 1/24 14:02:02
                              He also forgets nee ignores that Burden's class was with - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:35:26
                         yeah, it's pointless and stupid to debate something - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:16:28
                              Not at all. Coaching evaluation is somewhat based on - zounami MU - 1/24 13:21:51
                                   yes, and you have not had a single conversation with - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:24:10
                                        I watched numerous interviews & pressers of both of them. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:25:45
                                             well, that settles it then - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:38:18
                                                  I'm just saying, a lot of it boils down to intuition... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:39:32
                                                       okay, well you're just advertising that it's a waste of time - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:43:27
                                                            what "facts" are you referring to?... I've specifically - zounami MU - 1/24 13:56:03
                                                                 yes, you are using your already formed opinion - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 14:04:10
                                                                      I don't need to spin anything. We're dead last in the SEC... - zounami MU - 1/24 14:06:15
                                                                           you predicted we'd be terrible this year and last in the SEC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 14:11:18
                                                                                I predicted Kenpom 60-80 last year, with Kobe Brown... - zounami MU - 1/24 14:18:27
                         He doesn't have an "it" factor - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 13:12:19
                              nice of you to weigh in here - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:17:08
                                   RE: nice of you to weigh in here - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 13:32:51
                                        he is a chubby faced nerd - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:39:30
                                             I don't really agree with that - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 15:19:10
                                             Probably scale that back a little. Had a great season - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:51:05
                                                  I'm not putting him in the HOF yet - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:57:37
                                                       Easy now - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 15:21:55
                                             I would disagree with his ability to coach. - Jayhawk14 KU - 1/24 13:45:08
                                                  oh, is putting together a staff and recruiting not part of - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 13:47:33
                                                  he's a far better coach than Leipold (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:46:20
                                                       Good gawd man - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 15:20:10
                                                       Lol, no he's not. If you take off the black and gold glasses - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:52:27
                                                            "far better" is a probably a stretch - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 14:22:35
                                                                 Leipold - Wildcat KSU - 1/24 15:21:01
          Are you senile? I'm Nostradamus compared to the rest of - zounami MU - 1/24 12:52:05
               So you thought after 1.5 seasons that Drink would go - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:36:31
                    Yes. In fact I predicted that his breakout season would be - zounami MU - 1/24 13:38:38
                         Fine. Give Gates the same consideration.(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:41:48
                              I have. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:42:13
                                   Past tense. So it seems you're done with him. Fine, maybe - Diamond Dave MU - 1/24 13:49:23
               RE: Are you senile? I'm Nostradumbas compared to the rest of - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/24 12:57:33
               Your posts get copied to boardgeniuses - ChinaTiger KC - 1/24 12:57:18
                    I think you're projecting here. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:06:40
     Wrong Board. Try the BBall one! - muwinn MU - 1/24 12:21:22
     protip - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:13:04
          how's it trolling? (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 12:13:47
               you see how your boy Muss is doing?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:15:23
                    2021: Elite 8.... 2022: Elite 8.... 2023: Sweet 16.... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:17:24
                         Missouri beat them last year easily. Scoreboard. Gates - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:34:03
                              and lost to them, as well, by a greater margin (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:36:04
                         you're focused on this year with Gates - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:18:56
                              First, my takes on Gates (and Muss) have been consistent - zounami MU - 1/24 12:21:28
                                   was one take that Gates would have a better conference - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:36:20
                                        Haith's first 1.5 seasons were even better... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:49:26
                                             that and this basketball season sounds familiar - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:57:29
                                   So, your take on Gates was that he would take Missouri - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:31:04
                                        win total depends on SoS... I predicted Kenpom would be - zounami MU - 1/24 12:35:31
                         so you are an arky fan?(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/24 12:18:36
                              No. I wanted Mizzou to hire Musselman in 2017 instead of - zounami MU - 1/24 12:19:36
                                   because you think Muss is an elite coach - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:23:31
                                        It's not year 7 of his tenure at Arkansas. It's year 5, and - zounami MU - 1/24 12:24:52
                                             LOL- using one conference win as the "told you so" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:31:40
                                   ...I also wanted Mizzou to hire Matt Rhule before he was a - zounami MU - 1/24 12:22:49
                                        MATT DADGUM RHULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 - Mothball MU - 1/24 12:38:21
                                        Matt Rhule failed to make a bowl game at a football blue - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:28:01
                                             he had rebuilding years at Temple & Baylor as well... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:32:46
                                                  As evidenced multiple times below, you can do it one year - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:34:26
                                                       Nebraska was better than Northwestern last year. In fact... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:41:16
                                                            more trolling. you know for a fact that they didn't easily - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:11:48
                                                                 facts, not trolling (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 13:15:42
                                                                      ...and the point is that Nebraska had the better team... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:18:43
                                                                           So Mizzou had the better team than Arkansas at the end - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:29:39
                                                                                Mizzou & Arkansas split the series last year. Each won their - zounami MU - 1/24 13:35:15
                                                                                     But Missouri won later in the season. Wait, are you - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 14:40:43
                                                                                          Nebraska beat Northwestern. Not vice versa... - zounami MU - 1/24 14:47:10
                                             it takes time to build a football program though - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:30:15
                                                  I know. That powerhouse Northwestern in the same division - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:33:21
                                                       You keep mentioning Northwestern. Nebraska beat them... - zounami MU - 1/24 12:39:44
                                                            Wait, is a single possesion indicative of a close game or - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:08:24
                                                                 Nebraska was 0-5 in games decided by *7 points* or fewer... - zounami MU - 1/24 13:15:08
                                                                      No they didn't. I watched the game. Also, 17-9 is not - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:21:30
                                                                           All I can say is "scoreboard"... Nebraska beat them, easily. - zounami MU - 1/24 13:23:24
                                                                                And I can you are wrong. Scoreboard... - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 13:33:25
                                                  85 scholarship players on a FB roster (nm) - zounami MU - 1/24 12:33:20
                                                       How ever did Northwestern accomplish such an - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:35:01
                                        who also had some really, really bad years - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/24 12:25:25
                                             who proved to be an elite coach... rebuilding a FB program - zounami MU - 1/24 12:28:19
                                                  Oh you mean like David Braun did at Northwestern? (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/24 12:29:10




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