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The rightful use of force by those in authority is a very

Posted on: October 14, 2023 at 15:29:06 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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Christian topic. To say it cannot be used because Christians must return good for evil and turn the other cheek is a misunderstanding of Scripture.
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For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:53:32
     RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/16 18:49:30
     RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:04:56
     I don’t take life instruction from anyone, especially - Outsider MU - 10/14 16:50:59
     RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - raskolnikov MU - 10/14 16:45:22
          RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:16:11
               that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 17:53:56
                    RE: that isn't what he said nor implied (nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 10/17 20:52:03
     When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - Toger STL - 10/14 16:16:46
          RE: When Jesus kicked the vendors' asses out of the church - sarasotatiger MU - 10/14 17:18:47
          Creflo Dollar says send him another thousand. His jets are - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:22:43
     RE: For those of you misrepresenting Christianity I ask this - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:51:33
          Or understand, as the many Christian officers do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:54:08
               We know that's your working interpretation, 4Tigs, thanks an - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:56:41
     Or maybe rethink the role of "policing"? - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:38:44
          I think that is what it is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:42:07
               You think not dropping thieves and murders - meatiger MU - 10/14 16:13:33
               That's a post ergo propter hoc point. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:43:41
               the police haven’t been hamstrung - pickle MU - 10/14 15:43:03
     Excellent point about cops(nm) - El-ahrairah UGA - 10/14 15:28:51
          Perhaps not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:32:58
               you still don't understand what El posted - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:52:11
               This, for the record, is "FIJIing" it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:40:35
                    That is insightful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:43:03
                         Thanks, it's a gift (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:26
               No, you made a great argument for the defund movement (nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:34:02
                    Or perhaps it points to a misapplication of Scripture - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:36:20
                         Police officers are individuals (nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 17:00:52
     I'll simply say that there was no caveats or exceptions - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:18:29
          I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:20:18
               He has never said such. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:21:59
               Jesus offered no exceptions. - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:21:42
                    So either police work is unGodly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:24:37
                         The romans killing Christians were employed by the emperor - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:33:10
                              Absolutely if you misuse the power and authority - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:37:25
                                   They weren't misusing their power. It was legal according - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 17:03:36
                                   But Israel is misusing their power slaughtering innocents(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:46:24
                                        That is a valid discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:48:19
                                        nuh-uh (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:47:41
                         If executing your role as a Police Officer contradicts with - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:32:36
                              That is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:34:59
                                   No and if you think that's what my words imply, I can't - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:39:14
                                        I agree with you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:41:19
                                             No, you're misinterpreting me and others all through - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:43:07
                                                  Read the OP - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:44:09
                                                       You're still off (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:44:39
                                   Cops just need to be smarter than you; - glue MU - 10/14 15:37:38
                                        Did he always turn the other cheek or did he ever - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:39:21
                                             He used force but never killed.(nm) - glue MU - 10/14 15:57:54
                                                  And that is my point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:00:06
                    I guess he assumes police must go around killing - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:22:43
                         No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:25:44
                              Turning the other cheek, again is about not returning an - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:53:15
                                   I agree it can be evil to misuse force. But all along - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:56:15
                                        false. handcuffs, weapons, etc are vital in protecting agai - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:19:07
                                             And I have never disputed that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:26:23
                                        The entire time I have spoke of not repaying evil for evil - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:04:11
                              RE: No, but they use force. They arrest. They detain. - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:34:11
                                   For the sake of clarity, I responded above(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:38:02
     Your premise is filled with the arrogance I mentioned - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:07:22
          How is is arrogant to ask people who told me he these - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:11:28
               "for those of you misrepresenting Christianity" - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:12:41
                    They have been. I have told them repeatedly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:16:09
                         and you're Smugly proud of your arrogant condescension - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:19:27
                              You make a good point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:22:15
                                   I'm formally agreeing with pickle that you're a full - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:15
                                        Oh the humanity - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:31:56
                                             more arrogance, pride, condescension - you sure type - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:33:24
                                                  Because I am blessed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:45:20
                                                       RE: Because I am blessed - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:48:17
                                                            Ok - does that make you feel better? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:49:22
                                                                 it doesn't make me feel anything, 4Tigs, and there's - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:50:51
                                                                      You keep repeating it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:57:14
                                                                           i shared it twice, the second because you pulled your "i'm j - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:01:59
                         If you were sitting in the office one day and your - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:19:05
                              So change the subject - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:21:33
                                   holy lack of self-awareness from the scenario - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:27:50
                                   I'll remind you that every time you bring up these trolly- - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:24:09
                                   I didn’t change the point. This is exactly what the - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:23:30
                                        The rightful use of force by those in authority is a very - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:29:06
                                             Would blowing up a populated house to kill a bad guy be - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:48:44
                                                  Let me ask with a question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:52:13
                                                       No. Humans are not omnipotent. Killing people for what you - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 16:09:32
     Do police justify blowing up a house with innocent people - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:54:31
          Yes. - Spanky KU - 10/14 15:12:51
               those don't make a moral argument for you, but you - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 16:16:29
                    Read your post again(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/14 16:40:17
          No, police shoot people if necessary - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 14:55:52
               A follower of Christ would shoot to defend self/others, not - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:10:14
                    So in way, taking out those who have already - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:12:22
                         no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:13:01
               We aren’t taking about bringing justice to those who - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 14:59:30
                    You said Christians are to love their enemy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:06:16
                         Then don't be a police officer if you follow Christ - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:20:20
                         Turn the other cheek is to not repay insult with insult, - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:15:15
                              So up to now it has only been to turn the other cheek - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 15:18:07
                                   That is an outright lie. - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:22:26
                                   No, this entire time it has been about Israel slaughtering - TigerMatt STL - 10/14 15:20:33
                                   You're the only person here thinking there aren't any - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:20:32
                                        I have never said there aren't other options - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/14 16:01:21
                         Hmmm.... (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/14 15:11:41
                         Christian police officers should, and why can't they? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/14 15:11:21
                              There are other jobs too(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 10/14 15:20:54




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