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RE: we've done better in the SEC than Nebraska or Illinois have

Posted on: June 3, 2023 at 13:20:15 CT
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IL hasn’t been much of a football power. They did win a B10 title in my lifetime. Ask Nub. Seems to me their recruiting base sucks and their one time facility advantages are no big deal anymore. They may do better with NIL.

Bottom line, Mizzou hasn’t won a conference title in FB, MBB or baseball since they were in the B8. And they were hardly dominant in the B8 outside a decade with Devine and an 18 yr run with Norm.

I think anybody that thinks MU is going to be big time in sports, in the deepest sports conference in human history, are trying to defy history, Mizzou’s situation, and are borderline delusional. Therefore, I’m more interested in simply finishing .500 (an excellent benchmark of competitiveness) and results against rivals. Conference and national titles have rarely been Mizzou’s jam. Again, I think the court sports are Mizzou’s best chance to dream in these areas. Yes, it was great to make championship games in the B12 and SEC but MU was never the best in their conference and probably was at best 3rd in those years. Regardless, SEC doesn’t want divisional winners anymore so that route to a title is gone with the wind.

Edited by slamduncan at 13:22:28 on 06/03/23
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     Truth - turnersmotiger MU - 6/4 12:07:31
     Here's 10 - ChinaTiger KC - 6/3 13:56:58
     Completely agree! - MizzouGunner MU - 6/3 12:36:56
          I mean, it's common sense. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 12:37:40
          dumb af... Nebraska & Illinois FB have been worse than MU - zounami MU - 6/3 12:33:34
               RE: dumb af... Nebraska & Illinois FB have been worse than MU - slamduncan KC - 6/3 12:37:40
                    RE: dumb af... Nebraska & Illinois FB have been worse than MU - slamduncan KC - 6/3 12:41:48
                         Because we used to have Pinkel - Merlin KC - 6/3 13:51:12
                         we've done better in the SEC than Nebraska or Illinois have - zounami MU - 6/3 13:03:13
                              RE: we've done better in the SEC than Nebraska or Illinois have - slamduncan KC - 6/3 13:20:15
                                   Passion and Priorities - TennesseeTuxedo UT - 6/4 07:44:48
                                   so you have no explanation for why Nebraska has sucked so - zounami MU - 6/3 13:35:41
                                        ...and I seem to remember us losing to Indiana the same year - zounami MU - 6/3 13:48:09
                                             RE: ...and I seem to remember us losing to Indiana the same year - slamduncan KC - 6/3 13:58:24
                                                  The SEC is stronger, but not by as much as you seem to - zounami MU - 6/3 14:01:23
                                                       RE: The SEC is stronger, but not by as much as you seem to - slamduncan KC - 6/3 14:18:46
                                                            RE: The SEC is stronger, but not by as much as you seem to - TennesseeTuxedo UT - 6/4 07:48:47
                                                            I'll also add... it seems like KC'ers are the ones who yearn - zounami MU - 6/3 14:25:51
                                                            your point about "more interesting rivalries, academic... - zounami MU - 6/3 14:23:44
                                                                 This Is Where You Guys Disconnect - TennesseeTuxedo UT - 6/4 07:51:04
                                                                 RE: your point about "more interesting rivalries, academic... - slamduncan KC - 6/3 14:36:40
                                                                      The SEC has the Texas Longhorns... - zounami MU - 6/3 14:41:59
                                                                           RE: The SEC has the Texas Longhorns... - slamduncan KC - 6/3 14:56:40
                                                                                Travel - TennesseeTuxedo UT - 6/4 07:52:28
                    no, it's 100% true (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 12:38:46
     So….if Arizona will eventually get an invite, so would we. - ClassicTiger MU - 6/3 12:24:27
          Not necessarily. Arizona could very well get a B1G invite... - zounami MU - 6/3 12:31:30
               Nope. AAU school but no population and terrible - XRob MU - 6/3 13:26:37
                    maybe you didn't know AZ is the 14th largest state... - zounami MU - 6/3 13:34:25
                         My sister and BIL both graduated from UA, my son from ASU - XRob MU - 6/3 13:39:45
                              if the B1G doesn't take Arizona, I hope the SEC does (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 13:45:44
                                   Arizona and ASU should go as a package - XRob MU - 6/3 13:54:33
                                        yes but I doubt either P2 league has room for 2 AZ schools - zounami MU - 6/3 13:59:47
                              "PAC equivalent of KU" except in a state with 7.3M people... - zounami MU - 6/3 13:44:57
                                   They are a basketball school. Most of that population is in - XRob MU - 6/3 13:51:56
                                        4th among remaining PAC members... - zounami MU - 6/3 13:57:41
                    flagship university of a state with 7.3M people (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 13:32:39
     A lot of these people are suffering from battered fan - noodle MU - 6/3 10:44:34
          RE: A lot of these people are suffering from battered fan - slamduncan KC - 6/3 12:36:45
               RE: A lot of these people are suffering from battered fan - slamduncan KC - 6/3 12:43:48
               Mizzou was in the Big 12 for most of that time. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 12:38:27
          Minority? It’s quickly changing. Nm - ClassicTiger MU - 6/3 12:25:26
               nah, it's mostly just old-timers who still yearn for the B8 - zounami MU - 6/3 12:29:17
          MU has more self-loathing "fans" than any other school... - zounami MU - 6/3 10:47:52
     we lost to umkc in bball. there will always be a chance - TigerFan92 STL - 6/3 10:40:52
          That wasn't an upset. It was self-inflicted by hiring a D-2 - zounami MU - 6/3 10:45:19
     I'm trying to remember how many Final 4 appearances.... - El Zorro MU - 6/3 10:31:43
          There isn't one - Genco98 MU - 6/3 11:22:04
          RE: I'm trying to remember how many Final 4 appearances.... - hangman MU - 6/3 10:59:41
               We were one game away from Final 4 3 times….. - El Zorro MU - 6/3 12:12:18
                    4 times. You forgot 2008-2009 team. Lost in the Elite 8 - BBGates MU - 6/3 14:56:49
                    RE: We were one game away from Final 4 3 times….. - slamduncan KC - 6/3 12:48:06
                    We have a *rich tradition* in both major sports... - zounami MU - 6/3 12:27:46
                         RE: We have a *rich tradition* in both major sports... - hangman MU - 6/3 16:32:23
               Technically, we do have NCAA-recognized natties in FB... - zounami MU - 6/3 11:24:29
                    RE: Technically, we do have NCAA-recognized natties in FB... - hangman MU - 6/3 11:56:56
          Mizzou has a rich tradition and a valuable brand, which is - zounami MU - 6/3 10:38:37
               It wasn't bad luck. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/3 10:58:31
                    Agreed, we are 0-8 when the chips are down when a FF - ShowMeKid MU - 6/3 16:18:54




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