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Following up on a thread below re Scott Rolen, HOF

Posted on: January 25, 2023 at 11:03:24 CT
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We'll soon find out whether Rolen will wear a Philadelphia Phillies or St. Louis Cardinals cap on his Hall of Fame plaque, though he didn't have a choice in mind Tuesday night. A blank cap is also possible. Rolen played more games with the Phillies than he did the Cardinals (844 vs. 661), though he had more All-Star Game selections with the Cardinals (four vs. one), and also finished fourth in the NL MVP voting with St. Louis in 2004. Rolen also played for the Toronto Blue Jays and Cincinnati Reds late in his career.

CBS release this morning

As re the justification of his election, everyone acknowledges his defensive prowess against almost any 3rd baseman,

"Offensively, Rolen's credentials were also elite. A seven-time All-Star and the 1997 NL Rookie of the Year, he batted .281/.364/.490 with 2,077 hits, 316 home runs and 1,287 RBIs in his career. He is one of 35 hitters all time with at least 2,000 hits, 300 homers and 500 doubles. Of that group, Rolen became the 22nd to join the Hall of Fame."

Edited by jumbo73 at 11:09:01 on 01/25/23
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Following up on a thread below re Scott Rolen, HOF - jumbo73 MU - 1/25 11:03:24
     Next list of future HOF's based on the Rolen decision... - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:59:37
          It's weird that you're mad about - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 12:04:01
               Nothing to do with STL. Besides he is a Philly anyways... - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 12:06:42
                    LOL... - Gyro STL - 1/25 12:13:04
                         * - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 12:37:22
                    He won most of his awards with STL - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 12:12:35
                         Wiki has his primary team listed as Philly... - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 12:14:52
                              That's interesting actually - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 12:17:24
               Rossi lived in STL and apparently got so mangled by it... - Gyro STL - 1/25 12:05:46
                    Some people just can't handle the big time (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 12:06:30
                         WORDLE IN 2!!!!(nm) - Gyro STL - 1/25 12:11:20
          This is all because Rolen played in STL... - Gyro STL - 1/25 12:03:53
     Gyro's net worth just went WAY up with all of those - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:32:17
          JFC you're obsessed(nm) - Gyro STL - 1/25 11:59:33
     Worst player to ever make the HOF? - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:24:44
          Rolen's career WAR is 70.1, Bill Mazerowski's is 36.5... - Gyro STL - 1/25 12:01:12
          Since Fiji isn't here: - dangertim MU - 1/25 11:39:11
               he do be saying that (nm) - lqf2b8 KC - 1/25 12:37:02
          Get over your Cardinals' envy. - Reagan STL - 1/25 11:37:56
               They never will (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 11:57:13
               He's a Philly...not a Card. Played way more games - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:53:21
               He played most of his career elsewhere, so not a card(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/25 11:51:43
               Matt Holliday is more deserving than Scott Rolen.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:38:34
                    Defense matters (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/25 11:50:16
                    lol (nm) - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:41:34
          Harold Baines(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:28:25
               Baines had more HR's than Rolen.(nm) - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:36:13
                    better hitter for sure. wayt worse defender and a - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:39:56
                    More HR's, almost 2,900 hits, better average ... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/25 11:39:55
          I'd like to see the list of worse (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/25 11:26:19
               Me too. Might as well let Balboni in at this point. Geez… - Carlos Rossi KC - 1/25 11:28:17
                    Barely over 2000 hits - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/25 11:51:03
                         Top 5 3B all time defense - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 11:54:37
     How TF did that guy make the HOF? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/25 11:12:09
          AND didn’t play in at least 120 games 41% of his career(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 1/25 11:50:12
          Top 5 all time in every defensive stat available (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 11:27:08
          Yeah I don't care if he played his whole career for my - Diamond Dave MU - 1/25 11:19:00
               Not even comparable, but agree Frank was a nice little - Uncle John MU - 1/25 11:27:27
                    Fielding-wise, they are. Of course Rolen will have more - Diamond Dave MU - 1/25 11:30:01
                         Yep, Frank's right there with Billl. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/25 11:35:42
                    yes, he and Tommy Edman are pretty comparable - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 1/25 11:29:44
                         lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:30:08
               so if frank white goes in then rolen is more deserving? (nm) - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:23:59
               No argument, Frank should be in(nm) - jumbo73 MU - 1/25 11:21:29
          7 time All Star, 8 Gold gloves not enough for you? - jumbo73 MU - 1/25 11:14:12
               plus ROY, Silver Slugger, WS champ, Cards HOF (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 11:26:17
               No. Not really... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 1/25 11:21:08
                    HOF induction isn't just based on offense (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 1/25 11:28:42
               there are certainly worse players than him in the HOF - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:15:39
                    Agreed, we've long ago passed the point of restricting - jumbo73 MU - 1/25 11:20:14
     i'm hoping philly just to see the stl fan/media reaction. - TigerA MU - 1/25 11:05:33
          RE: i'm hoping philly just to see the stl fan/media reaction. - colonel angus beef KC - 1/25 11:11:56
          RE: i'm hoping philly just to see the stl fan/media reaction. - jumbo73 MU - 1/25 11:11:55




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