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I thought he was good in years 1 and 4

Posted on: November 30, 2022 at 14:39:09 CT
wu-tangtiger MU
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I gave him a pass for year 2. Jontay would have been worth enough games to get them in the tournament.
Years 3 and 5 I agree. He was too slow to change things up both those years, which cost the team wins. And cost him his job.
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For the wait and see crowd. What are you waiting for? - longtimereader MU - 11/30 13:04:44
     Weekend non-conference games should have been legit - alstl MU - 11/30 20:09:36
          yes! - Beakerbasher KC - 11/30 20:29:40
     Maybe to calm some of these people down - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:30:19
     I saw the AD in the locker room....nm - tigertix MU - 11/30 16:20:28
     against *this schedule*, 20 wins is a bare minimum to be - zounami MU - 11/30 15:40:21
          Make sure you put this out there - Gavin Citrus MU - 11/30 19:22:08
          You don't think much of the conference?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:27:37
               I do, but the average team isn't top 20. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 16:32:47
                    The 9th place team is not top 20 - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:34:44
          Failure is not playing hard, being unwatchable,& trolling, - Macgrantt MU - 11/30 15:59:25
     I am convinced Gates was an excellent hire - JG MU - 11/30 14:56:02
          The team clearly plays hard for him and it's a fun style - OntheMark MU - 11/30 18:05:08
          some of you are easily fooled by a hyperweak non-con... - zounami MU - 11/30 15:41:57
               Are you expecting wins in those 2 games? - Jmill88 MU - 11/30 17:15:09
                    well, KU has struggled and *barely* beat Southern Utah... - zounami MU - 11/30 17:25:18
               You sure give Drink more rope(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:19:43
                    wrong... if we went 8-0 against FCS opponents, I would be - zounami MU - 11/30 16:23:08
                         Dude you cut Drink way too much slack - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:24:43
                              I'm stating objective facts... why don't you take this - zounami MU - 11/30 16:25:41
                                   There are also positive objective facts, but you never seem - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:34:51
                                        My posts are neutral, not negative. I'm saying it's unclear - zounami MU - 11/30 16:36:43
                                             Thats just not true. When someone posts something positive - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:57:56
                                             We don't need that experiment here though(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:38:16
                                                  neutrality and objectivity?... it's more than what the - zounami MU - 11/30 16:42:35
                                        Look like more of a team(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:35:12
                                   I hardly take a tone these days. I just don't know where - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:26:33
                         (and btw, with several of them being near-losses) (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 16:23:58
                              Which were near misses? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 16:44:42
                                   near losses (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 16:45:10
                                        Penn, Southern Indiana, Wichita State (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 17:02:53
                                             Mizzou led Southern Indiana by double digits from - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 17:11:56
                                                  Penn was a tie game with 6 minutes remaining, and only - zounami MU - 11/30 17:22:14
                                                  it was a two-possession game (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 17:14:52
                                                       USI baked a 3 in with 5 seconds left. - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 17:17:49
                                                            So what? They pulled within 6 and might have won if there - zounami MU - 11/30 17:20:26
                                                                 Yes if the game was 48 minutes that could have changed thing - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 17:35:44
                                                                      or 41 minutes... a two-possession game can change quickly (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 17:58:46
                                                                           So your saying it was a close loss if - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 18:04:43
                                                                                no, I'm saying it was a two-possession game (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 18:06:59
                                                                                     So that’s a different argument than - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 18:16:43
                                                                                          2 possessions is a close loss, IMO (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 18:41:33
                                                                                               It’s a win that was never in doubt - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 18:46:33
                                                                                                    It was close. Southern Indiana simply ran out of time. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 18:49:30
                                                                                                         That’s funny (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 18:55:46
                                        Which do you consider near losses? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 16:51:58
                                             (see reply above) (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 17:03:16
               He didnt say a single word claiming they were good - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:19:04
                    "I'm convinced it was an excellent hire"... - zounami MU - 11/30 16:22:38
                         You've convinced me - JG MU - 11/30 16:38:15
                         So youre doubling down. He never once said this years team - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:24:34
                              and I never said he said that (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 16:25:02
                                   So youre just randomly responding with disconnected - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:28:12
                                        This is why I am confused about Zounami's passion - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:29:16
                                             To be honest, I'm helping certain "fans" understand what - zounami MU - 11/30 16:35:02
                                                  LOL often the sports boards - JG MU - 11/30 16:40:12
                                                  The football board has jumped shark - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:36:29
                                                       if you and MIZtigerZOU policed the FB board like you're - zounami MU - 11/30 16:41:44
                                                            Nobody is policing. Just pointing out your obvious game nm - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:55:28
                                             It seems the passion is just to **** on any positive point - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:30:25
                                                  He typically seems very reasonable on the football board - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:31:16
                                                       It’s the way of the current world. Dig your heels in on your - MIZtigerZOU MU - 11/30 16:32:23
                                                            If your wrong, your wrong...don't worry about it - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:33:50
                                   What is your endgame here?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:25:16
                                        His end game is to generate negative attention by trolling - Macgrantt MU - 11/30 16:31:18
                                        As always, to discuss Mizzou sports... - zounami MU - 11/30 16:25:59
                                             LOL - JG MU - 11/30 16:49:14
                                             What is this benchmark? - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:28:11
                                             So the OP is excited, cut him some slack(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:27:00
                         JHC zounami(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:23:03
               So losing to Top 20 teams means you're not good in sue world - Macgrantt MU - 11/30 16:02:02
                    It means you're not great. Our SEC slate will be a test of - zounami MU - 11/30 16:07:18
               Good is a relative term (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 15:46:56
     I think Gates was great hire and the team looks good - Genco98 MU - 11/30 14:46:44
          I can't tell if that was directed to me or not but if it was - longtimereader MU - 11/30 20:14:42
          Everyone has a right to complain (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 14:52:36
               Where is that written? Nm - Sigma MU - 11/30 15:16:32
                    RE: Where is that written? Nm - TigerA MU - 11/30 15:24:42
     I'm fine with .500 this year(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 11/30 14:42:29
          in SEC play? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 15:40:38
     There is a difference in waiting to - alwaysright MU - 11/30 14:30:08
          It probably going to be a year of runs. - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 14:42:05
     They're waiting for that "I told so" moment the one they - miz_zou MU - 11/30 14:08:19
          I dont see anyone waiting around....(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/30 14:12:05
     The schedule plays a big part in wins expectations - meatiger MU - 11/30 13:58:04
     I mean we have an awful strength of schedule - bluesox7 MU - 11/30 13:57:50
          Every team we've played had a "pulse." - glue MU - 11/30 14:28:06
               oh come on! lol - bluesox7 MU - 11/30 14:31:46
     waiting for what? Will they be top half SEC or not? let's - TigerFan92 STL - 11/30 13:50:27
          5+8 = 13...... 7+10 = 17...... - shorty MU - 11/30 14:00:53
               i guess I read it as a range of wins possible - SuperTone MU - 11/30 14:26:31
               dammm just dammm(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 11/30 14:19:30
               5th thru 8th...7th thru 10th. Nm - BandG MU - 11/30 14:08:00
                    Ahh!! The "th" makes it more clear.. (nm) - shorty MU - 11/30 14:38:20
               Forfeited due to no Mosely apparently(nm) - Mormad MU - 11/30 14:05:29
                    Back in 1980's AAU ball we actually didn't finish - TigerFan92 STL - 11/30 14:37:48
     A .500 SEC record would be a huge step forward for MU - Fred G. Sanford USA - 11/30 13:47:07
     I firmly believe last years team would be 7-1 with this - TheWildcat MU - 11/30 13:33:22
          No(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:20:16
          probably 8-0 (nm) - zounami MU - 11/30 15:41:08
          Lost to UMKC & a comparatively worse WSU team. - alwaysright MU - 11/30 14:23:28
          Last years team would have lost to USI I have no doubt. nm - thytiger MU - 11/30 14:17:26
               Penn too, probably (nm) - dbryantMU13 MU - 11/30 18:27:28
          At least 2 losses...Penn and last night...maybe 3. Nm - BandG MU - 11/30 14:09:47
          last year's team lost to UMKC by double digits(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 11/30 13:54:52
               Lost by 14 and let's be real, it wasn't that close - Eggs MU - 11/30 14:08:31
          No (nm) - Cosmo MU - 11/30 13:51:13
          This years team wouldn't lose to last years Roos.. (nm) - shorty MU - 11/30 13:47:00
               Or last year's WSU at home - Eggs MU - 11/30 13:51:19
          Brazile hadn’t played at this point last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 13:45:57
               I thought that was the case each year he was here and - longtimereader MU - 11/30 14:15:28
                    I thought he was good in years 1 and 4 - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/30 14:39:09
          You must've not watched them play last year (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 11/30 13:45:27
          Maybe, maybe not - hou4mu MU - 11/30 13:44:36
          Last years would have lost to Penn and Southern Indiana - Macgrantt MU - 11/30 13:43:38
          Last year could have easily lost to Coastal Carolina - SuperTone MU - 11/30 13:43:01
               Good call on those teams as well. I think people forget - Eggs MU - 11/30 13:48:43
          They would have lost to Southern Indiana too - Eggs MU - 11/30 13:40:19
               Yup. I forgot about them.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/30 13:43:39
     LOL!. Irrational Exuberance. 500 in SEC & Gates is coach of - Sigma MU - 11/30 13:14:05
          Agreed(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 11/30 16:20:49
     They're mad our wins aren't the right kind of wins - Columbian Gold MU - 11/30 13:07:15
          After SEMO they will all be P6 Level - longtimereader MU - 11/30 13:08:58
               Grit and hustle, what isn't there to like, Norm is smiling.. - tigertix MU - 11/30 13:11:16




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