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Lots of people can separate laws and punishment.

Posted on: November 15, 2022 at 11:07:08 CT
kmawv8 MU
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In fact, it's separated in the court of law in a ruling and then a sentencing. Laws are clear cut black and white. Sentencing/punishing is not.

And you're unwilling to separate the two because you're unable to have a legit conversation about what laws you support and why.
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reposting for 4tigs since he probably missed this last night - meatiger MU - 11/15 09:59:19
     So you don't wish to impose your will on others - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 10:09:22
          Lots of people can separate laws and punishment. - kmawv8 MU - 11/15 11:07:08
               So are you saying the libertarian view is to have laws they - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:09:41
                    There are consequences for breaking the law. - DC Jayhawk KU - 11/15 11:15:49
                         And I may not disagree, but what is that other than imposing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:17:35
                              Because I don't see him saying that *will* should be imposed - DC Jayhawk KU - 11/15 11:22:02
                                   And I don't disagree with that. And I agree with it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:24:46
                                        This is the stupidest of strawmen on the planet. - dangertim MU - 11/15 11:26:28
                                             And they get punished for doing it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:30:28
                                             some people just can't admit when they are wrong - ashtray UF - 11/15 11:29:10
                                                  I really do not think he is being dishonest - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:32:03
                                                       no, it's dishonesty (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/15 11:35:14
                                                       Answer this and I am good - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:35:08
                                                            I thought you believe in God. - dangertim MU - 11/15 12:25:40
                                                                 I do believe God - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 12:35:49
                                                                      correct, And God established inaliable rights, which - dangertim MU - 11/15 12:42:58
                                                                           And I never disputed there is a forcing of will or even - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 12:55:07
                                                                                i think they will agree that it's the imposition of the - dangertim MU - 11/15 12:58:02
                                                                                     That is their belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 13:00:48
                                                                                          no, their belief is that the murderer is the one who - dangertim MU - 11/15 13:29:03
                                                                                               No, if they deem what he did to be evil, they have to have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 13:32:20
                                                            Never claimed they were an in arguable starting point - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:38:16
                                                                 Then what is your basis for making those rules about - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:42:08
                                   this shouldn't be hard. - dangertim MU - 11/15 11:24:11
                                        I agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:26:09
                              who ever claimed libertarians are pure and free?(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:21:06
                                   So do you still think it is wrong to use laws to impose - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:22:27
                                        Laws against infringements are not imposing of will laws(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:29:50
                                             But this is the key - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:32:01
                                                  forget natural rights - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:33:05
                                                       So don't question - just accept your premise as the starting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:36:04
                                                            do you disagree with any of it? - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:37:15
                                                                 I have never disagreed with that part - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:43:19
                    No, I'm not saying that. And if you want to have a - kmawv8 MU - 11/15 11:12:42
                         You cannot separate law and punishment - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:18:41
                              For discussion you can - meatiger MU - 11/15 11:20:35
                                   Agreed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 11:28:01
     Good for you, fighting the pointless fight. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/15 10:07:45
          They actually want laws that support what they think is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/15 10:10:57
          Who has said none of us vote?(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/15 10:10:18
               Non participation is the only moral choice ring a bell? - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/15 10:37:54
                    link? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 10:49:42
                         Your memory must be worse than bidens to need a link. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/15 10:54:45
                              there isn't a link because meat hasn't said it, so are you - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 10:59:08
                                   Lol. I didn't say that meat said it. You did. - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/15 11:09:34
                                        you said "none of you vote" so are you lying again or is - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 11:12:46
                                             of course I'm right - ashtray UF - 11/15 11:27:55
                                             Ha ha ha . You think this is helping ? - RHAYWORTH MU - 11/15 11:27:49
                                                  that's what I thought (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 12:09:26
                                                       RE: that's what I thought (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/15 12:15:35
                                                            stop it - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 12:45:44
                    yes, that is said by some(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/15 10:44:45
               RHAY (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/15 10:23:23
                    8th Tiger also accuses many of that as well - meatiger MU - 11/15 10:35:15
                    RE: RHAY (nm) - Panthera MU - 11/15 10:33:06




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