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Posted on: October 10, 2022 at 17:55:55 CT
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I 100% enjoy that Putin is getting stonewalled and having issues. I have no love for Putin, but I understand the motivation of not wanting the Ukraine to become part of NATO.

We can split hairs but we invaded Vietnam, Afgan. and Iraq
simply for control of the Global power structure and wealth. We basically control countries or their leaders that at times we installed by covert measures or support by other means. In doing so we clearly are a invading and controlling empire which is self serving and I'm OK with that because it often benefits people in those regions and benefits the American people.


My issue is that no doubt the level of involvement is going to continue to escalate in the Ukraine this is not a hill we should be willing to die on I think this administration has vastly underestimated what Putin and his cronies will do..... they have no issues with going the distance. I 100% don't believe that Putin plans on invading Poland etc. if so then that is the Hill to take a stand on but not the Ukraine.

This will move toward boots on the Ground because Putin will not stop unless we try to covertly remove him by various Empire building means...which would be a wise choice and save lives.

I understand taking a hardcore line with China over Taiwan they provide us with a lot of tech that we need and the world needs, the Ukraine is of little value .
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     Only fools care about what a Russian propagandist has to say - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 16:38:24
          How pathetic are so many Americans these days... - Gyro STL - 10/10 16:42:38
               RE: How pathetic are so many Americans these days... - THEGROVE68 MU - 10/10 16:58:25
                    So some fair points... - Gyro STL - 10/10 17:19:32
                         RE: So some fair points... - THEGROVE68 MU - 10/10 17:55:55
               They are traitors, that 's more than pathetic. - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 16:44:53
                    RE: They are traitors, that 's more than pathetic. - THEGROVE68 MU - 10/10 18:42:03
                    RE: They are traitors, that 's more than pathetic. - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 17:12:38
                         You being a Russian propagandist are loyal to your side, - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 17:14:24
                    Look at Sal below...he seems to think that supporting... - Gyro STL - 10/10 16:49:40
                         RE: Look at Sal below...he seems to think that supporting... - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 17:14:27
                              Yet you can't counter them with anything other than... - Gyro STL - 10/10 17:23:31
                                   RE: Yet you can't counter them with anything other than... - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 17:27:14
                                        That seems cowardly... - Gyro STL - 10/10 17:30:08
                                             All he can do is name call and present Russian propaganga. - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 18:02:14
                              Does your handler tell you to use certain catch phrases like - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 17:18:10
                         Even Joe Rogan and his guest are clueing in.... - MUTGR OU - 10/10 16:53:08
                              RE: Even Joe Rogan and his guest are clueing in.... - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 17:14:52
                              "Neocon" is overused and misused term... - Gyro STL - 10/10 17:00:59
                                   You just wrote you want the US to be the world's policeman.. - MUTGR OU - 10/10 17:07:48
                                        The Ukraine is no more a democracy than Iraq or Afghanistan. - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 17:16:31
     State propaganda . No way(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/10 16:33:35
     The empire of lies is teetering. Unfortunately, they - MUTGR OU - 10/10 16:19:25
          People with courage to tell the truth and take the hits that - JeffB MU - 10/10 16:21:30
     Not surprising Germany sides with the Nazis. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/10 16:13:31
          Why do you seem to only get dumber and dumber? - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 16:40:25
          RE: Not surprising Germany sides with the Nazis. (nm) - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 16:14:14
               No one cares what a Russian propagandist has to say, fascist - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 16:41:59
               That's the facism that bothers you these days? - Gyro STL - 10/10 16:31:34
                    We've seen how progressive fascism, practiced by democrat - BH O'bonga MU - 10/10 16:44:15
                         Your handler will be proud.Quite a couple of sentences,Ivan. - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 17:07:09
                         I appreciate that you bought a Family Sized... - Gyro STL - 10/10 16:51:50
                              You can't reason with a paid Russian propagandist. If he's - TexJohnson MU - 10/10 16:57:52
                                   O'Bonga: You're wrong. - Gyro STL - 10/10 17:24:36




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