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and lastly, even then, those opposed used "Utopian" to

Posted on: August 4, 2022 at 10:21:32 CT
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(illogically, emotionally) criticize the very idea of independence - the same fallacious BS argument you get when presenting libertarian principles which might deviate from the strong rule of federal, state, local laws enforced by government...."you'll have chaos and misery"

Nothing has changed in this regard, imo, it's all about how one views the State.
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The Sudden Emergence of Tom Paine - pickle MU - 8/4 09:56:46
     You should learn from Paine: - Spanky KU - 8/4 10:28:38
          he’s right - pickle MU - 8/4 10:52:29
               You fail to start from reality(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/4 10:58:27
                    oh, that’s your confusion - pickle MU - 8/4 11:03:48
                         Nope.. you live in a cocoon of fantasy and theory(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/4 11:05:03
                              you do realize that theory is a result of applied reason - pickle MU - 8/4 11:06:56
                                   only if you START with the actualities(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/4 11:09:17
                                        what assumption or foundation isn't based on actualities? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:39:30
                                             Asked and answered - Spanky KU - 8/4 13:44:35
                                                  saying tax isn't a crime is no different than you calling - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 13:58:18
                    be specific; and note Paine's quote carefully (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:59:06
                         Seriously? - Spanky KU - 8/4 11:03:44
                              you’re not helping your argument there (nm) - pickle MU - 8/4 11:04:36
                                   Failure on your part again - Spanky KU - 8/4 11:09:51
                                        no, i’m afraid you’re just that stupid and dense - pickle MU - 8/4 11:12:08
                                             You start from fantasy and devolve from there(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/4 11:20:52
          gods below you're dumb, seriously. you have no capacity - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:35:26
               You disagree with Paine?(nm) - Spanky KU - 8/4 10:41:17
                    no, i'm mocking you for your idiotic implied interpretation - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:42:52
                         His words are his words. There was no interpretation - Spanky KU - 8/4 10:46:46
                              then your post was entirely vapid and brought nothing. Paine - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:54:05
                                   You described the OP and every pickle post ever made - Spanky KU - 8/4 16:47:52
     and lastly, even then, those opposed used "Utopian" to - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:21:32
     If only - Panthera MU - 8/4 10:20:58
          have to use economic power to enforce morality, obedience - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:23:09
               nail on the head (nm) - ashtray UF - 8/4 11:20:06
     true then, true today, substitute any continent or country - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:18:05
     wish everyone here would accept this statement and - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:14:52
     love the impact of this as it relates to property rights - 90Tiger STL - 8/4 10:10:35




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