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'Viability' is an absurd demarcation line. The only

Posted on: October 8, 2021 at 17:33:53 CT
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ontological change in the reproduction process is when the sperm with 23 chromosomes unites with the ovum, which also has 23 chromosomes, to form a new unicellular human being with 46 chromosomes.

From that point on all that human being needs to continue living and moving along his or her lifetime timeline is nutrition and a safe place to live.

"Viability" is an artificial construct.

A disabled person may not be "viable", able to live on his or her own, but that hardly means that people should be able to kill them.

A newborn cannot live on his or her own.

Many elderly people cannot live on their own.

The bottom line is that it is gravely evil to intentionally kill an innocent human being.
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An unborn baby is 'not your body' - Spanky KU - 10/8 16:02:41
     it's your property (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 17:16:34
          The baby is the parents' offspring, but the baby owns his/ - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 18:14:03
               No. The life belongs to God. - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 18:39:55
                    That's SHOCKING! You say God doesn't exist. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 19:15:01
                         You are incapable of learning. I love how you change - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 19:57:13
                              I use the NKJV at least 95% of the time. Those posts go back - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 21:17:07
                                   the fake xitian busted (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/9 07:39:10
                                   Because I know you know better. An atheist isn't usually - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 23:28:50
               The topic is a fetus, not a baby (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 18:15:32
                    False. The issue is alive or not. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 18:18:11
                         You obviously didn't read the OP which explains why you - ashtray UF - 10/8 18:31:28
                              'unborn BABY' - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 18:36:19
                                   strawman (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:09:45
          Sounds like slavery, which make sense because - AllThingsKC KC - 10/8 17:28:16
               Who owns the woman’s body? - pickle MU - 10/8 18:00:53
                    Who owns anyone else's body? Do parents have a right to - JeffB MU - 10/8 19:21:41
               Is your foot a slave? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 17:57:46
                    Is your brain dead?(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/8 18:00:00
                         apparently it's my slave (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:10:20
          You advocating for slavery? nm - pinkman MU - 10/8 17:23:21
               He likes the idea of selling babies, apparently - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:29:30
                    He likes to sell them piecemeal, one part at a time.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 18:14:38
                    He also likes selling born babies too - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/8 17:39:02
                         You wish, pedo (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 18:32:02
                    The pickletopians are drawn to evil like moths to a flame. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/8 17:35:18
                         Infringement on the right to self ownership is evil - ashtray UF - 10/8 18:32:42
                              Self ownership does not mean that one can do anything that - JeffB MU - 10/8 19:19:19
                                   it means you have the right to do whatever you want - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:41:36
                                        Your right to swing your fist ends where your neighbor's - JeffB MU - 10/9 09:31:17
          no more than a newborn or 5 year old is your 'property'(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:19:20
               incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 17:49:53
                    Only in a ‘tard world is a child (unborn or born) property - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:52:59
                         is your dick your property? - ashtray UF - 10/8 17:53:27
                              A penis is not a child. You are truly a ‘tard(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:58:06
                                   Neither is a fetus, stunad (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 18:13:49
                                        Wrong (nm) - Spanky KU - 10/8 20:24:31
                                        Why are science and facts irrelevant to you? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/8 19:20:16
                                             your made up definition for words are irrelevant to me (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:42:13
     RE: An unborn baby is 'not your body' - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 16:49:53
          Some things can be corrected. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:52:41
               Killing one's child does not 'correct a mistake', of course. - JeffB MU - 10/8 16:59:16
                    An egg is not a person, and an abortion is not killing a - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:59:44
                         That's like saying tadpole isn't alive because hasn't yet - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/8 18:17:07
                              A tadpole is a baby frog. An egg is not a frog. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 22:15:54
                         A new, unique human being comes into existence when an - JeffB MU - 10/8 17:09:30
                         RE: An egg is not a person, and an abortion is not killing a - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 17:00:46
                              Viability changes the equation. Most pro choice people - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:01:55
                                   'Viability' is an absurd demarcation line. The only - JeffB MU - 10/8 17:33:53
                                        so people should also be forced to take care of elderly - ashtray UF - 10/8 17:52:06
                                             It is hard to take seriously anyone with views such as yours - JeffB MU - 10/8 18:48:43
                                                  it's hard to take seriously a religious fanatic who wants a - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:08:43
                                                       Yes, laws against intentionally killing one's children is - JeffB MU - 10/8 19:10:35
                                                            false (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:42:31
                                   RE: Viability changes the equation. Most pro choice people - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 17:02:25
                                        Which law? Roe vs.Wade addressed viability. - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:04:45
                                             RE: Which law? Roe vs.Wade addressed viability. - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 17:08:18
                                                  Not true. Several.abortions have been performed to.save - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:10:09
                                                       False. There are no cases where a child must be aborted to - Spanky KU - 10/8 18:09:25
                                                            RE: False. There are no cases where a child must be aborted to - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 23:25:25
                                                       RE: Not true. Several.abortions have been performed to.save - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 17:12:24
               RE: Some things can be corrected. Nm - MOCO SON MU - 10/8 16:58:55
                    A fetus is not a person. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:00:11
                         You, the Nazis and the slave owners all agree that you can - JeffB MU - 10/8 19:22:55
     A fetus is the mother's body. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:46:25
          Has its own DNA, its own heartbeat, its own bloodtype, - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 18:16:29
          False. Only a ‘tard thinks that(nm) - Spanky KU - 10/8 16:47:48
               Straw man. Thanks for playing. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:50:28
                    Not a straw man.. an actual fact that only a 'tard - Spanky KU - 10/8 16:59:17
                         Not a fact at all. Definitely an appeal to emotion, however. - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:00:43
                              Separate heart, brain, lungs, etc.... it is a separate human - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:05:27
                                   Not viable until somewhere in the 24 week range. A fetus - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:07:23
                                        It is a separate body.... viability or not. Different DNA - Spanky KU - 10/8 17:13:41
                                             it isn't separate. Clearly (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:43:03
                                                  Get on the ‘tard bus - Spanky KU - 10/8 20:26:06
                                                       learn the difference between your opinion and real world - ashtray UF - 10/9 07:40:41
     Abortion = racism.(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 10/8 16:34:34
     Scientists claim bacteria found on Mars as life. Yet libscum - Fourth and Long MU - 10/8 16:31:26
          A tumor is also living tissue. Doesn't make it a person. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:47:13
               Can a tumor grow into an independent human being?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 18:17:30
     Abortion is not birth control (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 16:16:49
          Of course it is. It is not the only form, but it certainly - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:48:05
          For liberals, it’s the perfect birth control. Liberals are - Outsider MU - 10/8 16:32:57
          It is live birth control.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 16:21:26
               Ha! And I guess rounding up the homeless and - Outsider MU - 10/8 16:35:02
                    Round up the Jews, while you are at it--ashtray (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 16:57:02
                    That would be called murder.(nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 16:41:01
                         Not by the standards of abortion advocates but - Outsider MU - 10/8 16:44:19
                              Pro choice advocates are for the only person in this: - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:50:00
                                   except in the exceedingly rare case of rape or incest - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 16:53:13
                                        If you are for forced pregnancy, then you are for it whether - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:57:28
                                             You are correct...I don't think - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 17:03:44
                                                  i agree...you don't think (nm) - pickle MU - 10/8 22:45:01
                                                  An egg is not a person, and an abortion is not killing a - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:05:39
                                                       You're right, a chicken egg is not a person - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 17:08:49
                                                            A chicken egg is also not a chicken. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:10:44
                              no - pickle MU - 10/8 16:45:29
                         abortion is murder, regardless of what you call it (nm) - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 16:43:23
                              No, it isn't. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:53:13
                                   yes, yes it is - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 16:55:23
                                        No, it isn't. An egg is not a person. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:58:08
                                             it's not an egg once fertilized...it's a human with - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 17:05:21
                                                  Do you prefer your chickens sunny side up or scrambled?(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/8 17:19:42
                                                  It is a fertilized egg, but still.an egg. An egg is not a - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 17:08:05
                                                       you just really want to justify - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 17:12:43
                                                            you just really want to justify force on a woman (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/8 19:44:23
                              is taxation theft? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/8 16:44:08
                                   Thread drift DENIED. NM - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:59:04
                                   SKIPPPPPYYYYYYY to my lou. (nm) - DesertTiger MU - 10/8 16:50:06
                                        is taxation theft? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/8 17:33:04
               Birth control prevents conception. - Tigrrrr! MU - 10/8 16:23:41
                    Not always(nm) - tigerdb MU - 10/8 17:14:44
                    Birth control prevents birth. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 10/8 16:53:40
                    do you know what “birth” means? (nm) - pickle MU - 10/8 16:40:12
                         Sure he does. Birth comes after life begins…next! (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/8 16:41:33
                    That would be conception control. (nm) - TigerMatt KC - 10/8 16:27:36
                         lol (nm) - pickle MU - 10/8 16:39:37




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