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I get what you are saying - I just cannot follow it

Posted on: May 5, 2021 at 10:44:54 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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On the one had some laws are good because they actually protect freedom and liberty to a greater extent. However, you could never support candidates because they would support those laws that do better things.

That is some twisting and turning. But to each his/her own. Thanks for the discussion.
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Facebook to Trump:Stay out loser - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/5 08:18:00
     RE: Facebook to Trump:Stay out loser - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/5 08:31:33
     This shows just how well they can monitor content when - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:29:47
          agreed, Section 230 should be repealed (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 5/5 08:46:23
               looks like the liberals agree on their anti-business stance - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:47:08
                    so some government "interference" in the market is good now? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:53:27
                         defamation and libel is government interference in the - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:58:10
                              any common law tort could be said to be then(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:59:16
                                   no (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 09:34:03
                                        yes(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:53:34
                                   not necessarily - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:00:18
                                        what is the made up right with defamation? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:04:35
                                             you have a right to free speech (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:05:51
                                                  and defamation is limited by that right(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:06:58
                                                       Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 09:34:19
                                                       who limits that right?(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:07:23
                                                            The first amendment limits the right to recover for - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:13:53
                                                                 Lol no it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 09:35:05
                                                                      sure it does, rhetorical hyperbole is based in the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:46:30
                                                                           No it doesn’t - pickle MU - 5/5 10:23:57
                                                                                lol ok I should've seen this coming - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 10:30:00
                                                                                     You mean having your argument knocked down? - pickle MU - 5/5 10:40:20
                                                                 First amendment says nothing about defamation - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:28:37
                                                                      Ahh this argument again. The Constitution doesn't say - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:33:18
                                                                           non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 09:35:24
                         He and meat don't even know what they are arguing at this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:56:05
                              meat has absolutely no clue per usual, I can kind of see - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 09:01:18
                                   meat is like a rask who is actually trying to grasp - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:10:10
                                        I did not change the discussion - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:12:19
                                             You claimed "need more government" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:14:40
          Derpflake mad^ - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/5 08:39:03
               Not mad - just practical - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:39:52
                    it's not getting removed - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/5 08:40:36
          that must be the pro-business stance (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:35:16
               need more government(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:36:18
                    This would be the removal of government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:38:12
                         Not at all - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:45:00
                              what government liability laws?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:46:56
                              It is a removal of government protection - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:46:40
                                   Government should be completely out of it - meatiger MU - 5/5 08:52:12
                                        And that is fine, but this step is still not more government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:55:10
                                             Why is the protection even there? - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:00:27
                                                  That is a different argument than yours above - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:04:34
                                                       It is more government - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:06:52
                                                            So if there were 50 laws before, and now there would be 49 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:08:26
                                                                 Are you calling for the full removal of section 230 - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:11:15
                                                                      In this thread I am saying for those who have demonstrated - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:16:10
                                                                           and then Nick would be on the hook for every poster here - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:18:27
                                                                                So you want government protection for such sites? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:21:13
                                                                                     if a law is made to prevent infringements on a right - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:30:38
                                                                                          So you buy into the notion that we should at times have more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:32:21
                                                                                               if we are going to have a government - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:37:29
                                                                                                    OK - as I said I am glad you put that out there - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:39:58
                                                                                                         I see where you are trying to direct this conversation - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:45:57
                                                                                                              So you are for laws that work to protect liberty and freedom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:50:58
                                                                                                                   If we are going to have government forced on us - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:02:35
                                                                                                                        So you agree laws can matter, and those who support some - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:10:38
                                                                                                                             no, it isn't a fair representation at all - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:17:20
                                                                                                                                  So you say it does not matter who gets elected, yet the laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:27:34
                                                                                                                                       I haven't agreed to that point - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:41:08
                                                                                                                                            I get what you are saying - I just cannot follow it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 10:44:54
                                                                                                                                                 yeah, you're not following - ashtray UF - 5/5 10:51:03
                                                                                                                                                      Well, you said above you support laws that protect rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:10:24
                                                                                     I would prefer the removal of section 230 - meatiger MU - 5/5 09:29:51
                                                                                          And as I said elsewhere, that is a totally different - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:34:00
                                                                                               That post was hyperbole - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:01:29
                                                                                                    I didn't say I had faith in government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:11:22
                                                                                                         is your solution to remove Section 320 - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:14:53
                                                                                                              As I said elsewhere, I would have no issues with removing it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:22:59
                                                                                                                   Doesn't your 2nd option require more government - meatiger MU - 5/5 11:28:46
                                                                                                                        They already are meat(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 11:57:21
                                                                                                                             hence the problem(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/5 12:24:18
                         false (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:39:02
                              How is it not? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:41:44
                                   I know you can't think past your nose - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:24
                                        I will let your words here stand for themselves - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:45:27
                                             good laydown, retard (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:45:52
                    wouldn't removing govt protection be less govt?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:38:06
                         what is the protection from? - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:39:45
                              You are such an idiot - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:43:00
                                   you clearly don't understand the issue (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:40
                              private law suits - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:42:03
                                   Yet it was the US gvmt going up against the ACLU - pickle MU - 5/5 08:48:38
                                        what?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:52:36
                                             RE: what?(nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 08:55:24
                                   lawsuits based on what? (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:44:51
                                        content they publish(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:46:02
                                             what suit can be brought for that? (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:46:27
                                                  libel and defamation I think are the main ones - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:47:37
                                                       so the protection is from government made up laws - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:49:08
                                                            uh defamation is a common law tort - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:50:35
                                                                 well, you know my opinion about what needs to be - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:56:33
                                                                      Well, thus far you have been arguing in favor of Section 230 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:58:05
                                                                           or you're just too stupid to understand the argument - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:58:57
                                                                                The record is clear - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:00:53
                                                                                     you only advocated for removing half of it - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:05:02
                                                                                          Yes (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 09:28:06
                                                                                          And yet you and meat labled that more government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:07:19
                                                                                               it is more government - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:09:33
                                                                                                    So to you smaller government is not about fewer laws and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:13:08
                                                                                                         no, how stupid of you - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:17:38
                                                                                                              The beauty of threads such as this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 09:18:58
                                                                                                                   yes, everybody can see just how stupid you are - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:19:41
                                                                 defamation is anti-free speech (nm) - pickle MU - 5/5 08:56:21
                         These idiots have their talking points and then show - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:38:54
                              meat for sure, but ashtray isn't often factually wrong(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:45:14
                                   He has become emotional and hormonal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:47:38
                                        says the poster making an emotional stance - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:50:04
                                             How it is emotional? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:53:04
                                                  because you're basing it on your feelings (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:57:35
                                                       No, I am basing it on Facebook's actions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/5 08:59:21
                                                            lol. ok, snowflake (nm) - ashtray UF - 5/5 09:00:34
                    but only when feelings are hurt - ashtray UF - 5/5 08:37:38
     Speaking of losers, did you find a job yet?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 5/5 08:27:15
     The board also said the indefinite, arbitrary ban goes - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:23:41
          After the "BIG LIE" blows over.(nm) - Toger STL - 5/5 08:27:04
          Are they still allowing fake news about Trump - Sal CMSU - 5/5 08:26:16
               wUtAb0uT!!! - JayHoaxH8r MU - 5/5 08:40:14
               I will give them credit for at least trying by putting this - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 5/5 08:31:00
               Of course they are. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/5 08:29:41
     Have you figured out how a 4 page memo - Sal CMSU - 5/5 08:20:09
          That's because - dangertim MU - 5/5 08:33:45
               I'm glad you're hearing the roosky talk again too. - Toger STL - 5/5 08:40:37
     what is facebook? sounds stupid(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/5 08:19:02
          The people on it.(nm) - Toger STL - 5/5 08:22:35




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