Missouri Tigers Athletics :: Mizzou College Sports :: TigerBoard.com :: at some point they'll have to stop blaming KA for CM's lack

Mizzou Sports Podcast - HSCoach STL - 4/13 20:01:32

That's a positive stat - must have been coached well(nm) - alstl MU - 4/14 10:46:50

RE: Mizzou Sports Podcast - tigerden MU - 4/14 07:13:18

I harken back to the offseason of 2008-09 - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 09:53:29

How dare you have optimism! - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 07:31:04

solid melodramatic pouting(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14 11:57:39

Good summary. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 07:54:10

While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 07:52:10

sir.. I believe you are not reading the posts - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:28:41

That is exactly what I am referring to - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:31:28

RE: While nobody has ever said something of that nature, its - tigerden MU - 4/14 08:22:23

I think he is without question a man of high character and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 09:43:32

Don't recall anyone questioning his character(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:47:55

Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 09:10:54

That is one guy, who watches Tucker Carlson as a serious - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:24:22

Ok? - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 10:55:25

Ok I agree that it is a perspective that is conveyed here(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 11:01:37

Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14 10:21:16

RE: Totally agree and worse criticism has been posted - Third_Eye STL - 4/14 12:01:12

Totally agree with your comment(nm) - oldtgr MU - 4/14 12:17:53

Link?(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 10:31:37

RE: Calling him lazy and saying he's essentially stealing money - HSCoach STL - 4/14 10:12:02

i think that's pretty much one poster - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:33:46

The lazy thing isn't many posters I agree - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 09:39:35

not stealing just overpaid(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 4/14 11:59:36

Even though Mizzou finished exactly where his pay - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 15:15:42

Any coach that doesn't live up to expectations is overpaid - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 13:24:42

well he kinda is. i mean he gets a country club membership - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:54:33

RACIST!!!1111!!!11! (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 10:04:31

don't be silly. it's not a racial thing. nobody likes golf. - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:14:13

TIL I'm Asian (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 4/14 10:17:08

i always figured you had a little asian in you - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:26:06

Is Cosmo letting Tbone get it in while Wildcat is MIA?(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14 11:09:24

Kim Anderson was a good man too. We should have kept him. - phrejd MU

- 4/14 08:50:08

Different players, same CM, same system = same results.nm - FentonMizzou MU - 4/14 08:41:15

this may be in the top ten of most ridiculous posts i have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:31:15

your excuses for Martin are what is getting old(nm) - NWMizzouFan KC - 4/14 11:08:58

Not really. But go for it. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:44:35

.594 win percentage over 13 years suggests otherwise(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:55:42

That’s better than Mizzou’s win percentage over that same - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:57:26

that's also Mizzou's worst period. so neat he's marginally - phrejd MU

- 4/14 08:58:53

Quin, MA and Haith combined for a .61 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:18:02

Please Stop with this "Huge Rebuild" Excuse - WrightWing MU - 4/14 09:41:22

this. although i'd say his first class was largely inherited - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:50:04

He took over a program that won less the 30% of its games - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:48:14

The rebuild is certainly not done, not even remotely done(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:04:50

The rebuild is just about complete. We will see who is added - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:36:32

I do not agree with that point - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:38:35

How is Mizzou not close to a normal level? - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 11:00:18

Here are our last 3 SEC finishes: 12th, 10th, 7th - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 11:04:58

Ok I disagree - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:09:13

We have accomplished nothing, the roster is in shambles, and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:11:29

The talent was not good last year... - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:38:04

It is almost certainly going to be the most talented roster - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:39:56

Why does it "doom us to failure" - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:45:00

I definitely plan on watching all the games - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:49:30

Made the tournament 2 of 4 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:14:05

That isn't an accomplishment - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:18:45

It is an accomplishment..... getting in matters..nm - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:38:39

We are rebuilding to very different end points - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:43:01

It is an accomplishment.. not the end goal - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:58:25

Playing in the 8/9 game is not an accomplishment for an SEC - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 11:00:46

Mizzou has made the tournament 16 times in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:05:26

Doesn't matter, doesn't make it an accomplishment (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 12:11:16

Makes it match the history - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:14:57

Pre 2014. So for people older than 10 or so (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 12:24:29

Even pre 14 most of Mizzou’s tournament appearances - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:33:01

Pre 2014 making the tournament was not considered - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 12:35:58

Then there’s been 3-4 successful seasons out of the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 12:45:01

You are equating successful with accomplishment - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 12:55:26

I’m just stating the baseline of what should be expected - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 13:16:49

And in this thread I was asked about accomplishments, and - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 13:49:32

It should be the standard that Mizzou coaches are judged by - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 14:44:21

Not accomplishing anything? I'd prefer the standard be that - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 15:29:23

Haith inherited a 2 seed. Though did a great job coaching - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:30:23

What are you talking about? Haith inherited an 11 seed team - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:34:07

23 wins and in the NIT. Means it wasn’t that good of a team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:36:54

I agree, not a good season. But that would definitely - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:41:09

Really? An NIT team was better than 2 tournament - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:43:08

Our 2013-14 team was better than any we have had since - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:46:59

It was second in top end talent to the 2018 team - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:50:47

That team was way more talented than the 2018 team - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:58:08

it saddens me that there are people who believe simply - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:24:17

There seems to be a decent subset of fans who - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:28:00

After Haith and Anderson.. you have to start somewhere - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:42:42

I get that perspective - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:45:20

I think that is a hugely underestimating the Coach - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 11:03:05

I hope I'm completely wrong and proven a fool - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 11:06:51

It’s more the baseline for success - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:27:54

good grief (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:50:31

Is that not true? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:56:21

this is both lazy and naive - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:12:11

correct. CM is worse than all those guys - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:30:37

so for you, no matter what happens - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:46:20

Really the program Haith inherited - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:36:55

in what perverse way is that? (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:47:33

That was your statement (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:48:53

sure (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:53:22

Yes, it's a massive rebuild, and it's been made longer - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 09:29:20

I have never seen this type of rebuild done in 2-3 years - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:34:04

Pearl did it. Wade at LSU did it. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 09:45:54

Being a program of filth like LSU and Auburn - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:48:05

Pearl didn’t do it in 2-3 years. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:52:41

Okay. So why are so many fans of Mizzou so impatient? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 4/14 10:35:32

Because they see Kentucky and Duke do it every year - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:40:29

at some point they'll have to stop blaming KA for CM's lack - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:33:20

Phrejd... you really need to have some perspective - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:50:30

I confirm I will never stop blaming Kim (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:06:36

"...for CM's lack of success." - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:16:31

I plan to continue blaming him for nearly all things (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 4/14 10:20:16

that's fair (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:25:04

2 tournaments in 4 years is a lack of success? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:36:07

2 tournaments ending in first round losses in 4 years - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14 10:01:41

I agree, tiresome if it was over a longer period of time - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:52:36

It’s been over a decade since Mizzou has a tournament win - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:08:00

And it's going to be another decade if we continue - Missiurifarmboy MU - 4/14 10:15:21

its not going to be another decade. Once again, the - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:53:28

You can because it was done legally. - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:17:39

stop using kim anderson as an excuse (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:13:13

That’s not just KA. It’s also MA and Haith - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:16:11

MA: 3 tourneys in 5 years, and 4 tourney wins - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:19:59

There wasn’t a postseason in year 3 - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:32:14

0 tournament wins in 7 years - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:46:50

That is a terrible argument to try to make(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/14 08:58:22

what makes you believe that's not the case? (nm) - phrejd MU

- 4/14 08:49:13

Players make a huge difference - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 08:56:41

not really. but go for it. - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:00:08

Like when he had Cal a 4 seed with Brown? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:04:12

pretty sure that team won as many tourney games as i did - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:29:13

Except that team had injuries and multiple - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:44:55

was that kim anderson's fault too? just trying to make sure - phrejd MU

- 4/14 09:52:51

Did he have his best players get hurt? - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 09:57:40

yeah i already have that excuse noted. you've used it - phrejd MU

- 4/14 10:27:17

So losing your best playes to injury does not have - MizzouGunner MU - 4/14 10:55:03

Even with an outdated scheme - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/14 10:34:28

at some point they'll have to stop blaming KA for CM's lack

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