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Setting aside what "order" means in the term "Law and Order"

Posted on: March 22, 2021 at 15:38:24 CT
ummmm MU
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you're making a good argument as to why govt laws are not needed for order to exist.
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Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:39:23
     I love the Innocence Project, and their companion group - *M* KC - 3/22 15:49:57
     "law and order" is just a political slogan (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 3/22 14:51:11
          and a TV show(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:05:57
               RE: and a TV show - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:07:35
     Raise the same money, effort for crime victims - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/22 14:51:04
          NO ONE IS PRETENDING THAT. My God. You - GA Tiger MU - 3/22 18:12:09
          innocent folks who are wrongly convicted are victims (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 3/22 15:09:14
          ^^^ Example #1, scan ^^^ (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 14:52:00
     Such as?(nm) - Spanky KU - 3/22 14:48:32
          Rhayworth(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:53:53
               then why not say Rhayworth instead of "so many Rs"?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 3/22 15:05:39
     indoctrination is strong - pickle MU - 3/22 14:45:15
     RE: Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - MUTGR MU - 3/22 14:44:35
          Why? Brainwashing. Just like nearly all libs are. Just - GA Tiger MU - 3/22 18:14:09
          Idk. That's why I asked the question(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:45:34
     4tigs proved "law and order" is a lie - meatiger MU - 3/22 14:43:00
          That is not what discretion is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:43:48
               you are inconsistent because you do not think for yourself - pickle MU - 3/22 14:51:51
               When a law is not equally applied - meatiger MU - 3/22 14:47:46
                    Actually, history would show when everything is applied - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:54:00
                         Care to provide examples of this? - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:11:33
                              Look at the frustrations of black Americans when police - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:16:37
                                   There are no guidelines in discretion - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:20:58
                                        And again, you demonstrate the juvenile mindset that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:23:26
                                             How can it mean anything else? - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:26:13
                                                  For the same reason that while my children have/had general - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:28:43
                                                       Not really. When I was in high school, I used that same - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:32:59
                                                            It sounds like it worked without there being many issues - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:33:54
                                                                 I continued to break their law. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:36:10
                                                                      It appears you don't know what order is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:37:14
                                                                           LOL - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:42:27
                                                                                And gladly so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:45:47
                                                                                     Then willful ignorance it is. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:50:50
                                                                                          The strict adherence to the law is when required to maintain - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 17:51:01
                                                                                               Lol, youre just making up your own definitions - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 18:30:17
                                                                                                    Why would a need a poster here to say anything? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 18:58:10
                                                                                                         Provide a link or anything. I’ve given you textbook - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 19:01:02
                                                                                                              What more do you need than decades of police work - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 20:29:29
                                                       A parent/child relationship is very different - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:30:35
                                                            It is law and order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:31:39
                                   LOL, that's the opposite side of your argument. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:20:30
                                        Everyone would be frustrated if that occurred - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:25:48
                                             You cannot articulate your point, because you don't know - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:29:37
                                                  He surely supports that drug and immigration laws - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:31:24
                                             I would content there would be two things - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:27:42
                                   not when they only use the letter of the law to pull - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:19:39
                         Lmfao (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 14:58:55
               Okay, I'll bite. How is that not discretion? (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/22 14:47:22
                    Discretion is the understanding that the purpose of a law is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:53:10
                         Actually...what you are pointing out - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:05:10
                              I would agree with you in that we have far too many - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:07:22
                                   And when you add in the fact that - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:17:54
                                        You contend law and order is all about rigid adherence - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:21:06
                                             it actually demonstrates that you don't - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:24:26
                         It all sounds like officer discretion in choosing which laws - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:02:10
                              And to the point I made and that meat disagrees with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:05:07
                                   It depends if you are on the wrong receiving side of that - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:10:59
                                        Correct, and it is why the sheriff near my church let us - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:19:45
                                             But what about 15 people? Is that when "proper discretion" - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:24:41
                                                  It would depend on the space in the room - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:26:35
                                                       But that is not the rule of law. That is the rule of that - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:29:31
                                                            Yes, that is the point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:33:04
                                                                 It didn't maintain order. It allowed, and even encouraged, - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:34:51
                                                                      We worshipped, no one got sick, the sheriff was not involved - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:36:10
                                                                           Setting aside what "order" means in the term "Law and Order" - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:38:24
                                                                                And that is a different discussion and a worthy one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:41:03
                                                                                     No, that is not what "order" in regards to "law and - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:44:06
                                                                           You were breaking the law. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:37:36
                                                                                Respect for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:39:12
                                                                                     What is the word after "respect for"? - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:40:29
                                                                                Yeah, "Order" in "Law and Order" doesn't mean - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:39:11
                                                                                     Exactly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:42:20
                                                                                          No. Ummmm was not agreeing with you. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:43:08
                                                                                               No, order in law and order is about maintaining - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:46:41
                                                                                                    begging the question (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:53:34
                                                                                                    No, it's about maintaining the Laws in an orderly fashion. - ummmm MU - 3/22 15:52:24
                                                                                                    No it's not at all. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:48:58
                                                                                                         When required to maintain order - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 17:54:12
                                                                                                              No, thats you making up definitions. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 18:26:52
                                                                                                                   No, that is what all good law enforcement personnel have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 18:30:34
                                                                                                                        The conversation is not what is good law enforcement. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 19:03:25
                                                                                     Enforced, and more importantly, followed. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:42:12
                                                            Nor is it order because you now have a group of people - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:31:01
                                             No, that's not the point. - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:22:47
                                             It is a rejection of the law - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:21:54
                                        Exactly - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:15:31
                                   One cannot claim to be for “law and order” - pickle MU - 3/22 15:10:16
                                   That is simply untrue - meatiger MU - 3/22 15:05:48
                                        Barney Fife is a perfect example of what you would claim - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 15:09:21
                                             Barney Fife is a piece of fiction from a tv show (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:10:49
                                                  explains a lot (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/22 15:23:41
                                                  lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 15:17:18
                                                  lol (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:13:04
                         You just supported what meat said (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 14:55:47
     Do you have any names? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/22 14:42:51
     RE: Why do so many "law and order" Rs dislike the Innocence - scan MU - 3/22 14:42:06
          he’s not projecting (nm) - pickle MU - 3/22 15:00:21
          What am I projecting? I love that organization (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:43:34
               RE: What am I projecting? I love that organization (nm) - scan MU - 3/22 14:47:22
                    You're accusing him of a possible false premise - kmawv8 MU - 3/22 15:03:28
                    I have observed it to be very true and wonder why those that - hefeweizen MU - 3/22 14:50:27




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