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As I have stated before, there are many things I admire

Posted on: March 1, 2021 at 09:58:21 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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regarding libertarian thought and positions. But the abdication of any objective moral responsibility in the civil realm is one where I cannot sign on. And there have been some rather lengthy and shocking threads here that point to precisely the reason I say that.
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DH makes an interesting point below with - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 09:17:24
     I never in any way stifle your speech. As I clearly said I - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/1 09:41:52
          lol you simply do not read (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 09:46:52
          that's not what I said. why do you think it is? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 09:43:03
               Free speech is freedom to speak as well as freedom NOT to - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/1 09:45:51
                    Pickletopians have right to remain silent. - RHAYWORTH MU - 3/1 09:58:42
                    I didn't make any comments about free speech, so - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 09:47:48
                         RE: I didn't make any comments about free speech, so - ummmm MU - 3/1 09:51:09
                    How do you not know what the word “demand” means? (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 09:47:35
                         public education (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/1 09:48:37
     lol (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 09:23:15
     He makes several very good points - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 09:22:24
          The points are good. The application of it is where he - ummmm MU - 3/1 09:54:29
               As I have stated before, there are many things I admire - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 09:58:21
                    libertarians don't abdicate morality, 4Tigs. It's your - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 14:21:29
                    all morals are subjective - meatiger MU - 3/1 10:00:54
                         Each person has their own subjective moral code. That is - ummmm MU - 3/1 10:02:24
                              Development? I thought that Natural Law was inherent in us? - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/1 10:37:19
                                   You're confusing natural law with natural rights. (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/1 10:46:20
                                   Look at the poll last week - meatiger MU - 3/1 10:43:23
                                        What does that have to do with anything? Just because we - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/1 11:00:44
                                             the reasons weren't all that different - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 11:05:30
                                   low IQ = poor reading comprehension (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/1 10:42:00
                              So as I have said before, libertarianism is at its core - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 10:10:42
                                   lol, no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/1 14:22:33
                                   Not one libertarian here has ever told you that - pickle MU - 3/1 10:22:51
                    What do you mean by "abdication of any objective moral - ummmm MU - 3/1 10:00:39
                         I will use the example I used here when asking a relatively - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 10:07:37
                              how do you apply it to the "civil realm" - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 10:11:00
                                   I admit that is where it becomes very very difficult - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 10:13:45
                                        well then, it seems your point moot (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 10:55:53
                                             No following - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:03:07
                                                  RE: No following - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 11:11:38
                                                       Are you referring to the age question?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:15:33
                                                            yes (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 11:17:45
                                                                 Well, the reason I could not answer their question is that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:41:26
                                                                      So rather than addressing the point - meatiger MU - 3/1 11:49:43
                                                                           It wasn't a gotcha question - it was a total lay up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:52:47
                                                                                It was a dumb question that does not even address any point - meatiger MU - 3/1 12:14:18
                                                                                     It proved clearly my issue with the lack of morality in too - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 12:25:57
                                                                                          Did anyone say it would be ok?(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/1 14:06:50
                                                                                               No, but you and others were paralyzed to the point you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 14:38:05
                                        They fall apart - meatiger MU - 3/1 10:18:06
                                             But as ummm admits above, libertarians are not against a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 10:23:50
                                                  incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 3/1 10:36:47
                                                  incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/1 10:30:53
                                                  the moral code is quite simple - meatiger MU - 3/1 10:30:35
                                                       I never claimed I did not have a line. And I never said your - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 10:44:44
                                                            You admit above you don't knw the exact line - meatiger MU - 3/1 11:30:24
                                                                 If you don't believe it wrong for an adult man to have sex - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:42:07
                                                                      So how would you write the law - meatiger MU - 3/1 11:47:36
                                                                           I would allow states to make their determinations as they - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/1 11:50:29
                                                                                so 12 is your cutoff line - ashtray UF - 3/1 12:26:10
     I think that was a very good point. - dangertim MU - 3/1 09:22:23
          the sunni conservative boomers are more reasonable - SwampTiger MU - 3/1 09:26:14
               yup same here. They defended flag burning in the 80's and - dangertim MU - 3/1 09:29:18
                    Leadership and change of causes - meatiger MU - 3/1 09:35:17
                         Possibly, I'm sure the original founders were about civil - dangertim MU - 3/1 09:41:03
          but the inherent irony is noted(nm) - dangertim MU - 3/1 09:23:43
     lol... wow (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/1 09:19:09




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