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Revisiting State worship (from interview w/Lew Rockwell)

Posted on: January 23, 2021 at 08:30:44 CT
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Let me ask you this: what is it in human nature that seems to seek out an authority figure or a governing figure? I see people standing in large droves before a politician cheering. What is it in human nature that wants that? Or am I wrong about that? I think this would impede somewhat a libertarian society.

LR: You are very much right. The State would like to be God. The State hates God and is envious of God, politicians, and so forth. They don’t want people being loyal to anything above them. The State attempts to be a quasi-religious organization. They must look back on the days of the pharaohs as the glory days when the government actually was the God. That is probably their ideal.

I think it is always important to remember that everything for good — or for ill, for that matter — is done by a motivated minority. The majority of the people, God bless them, tend not to be relevant. This means we have to be a motivated minority. We have to educate ourselves and understand the fight we are in. What is the best way to save the world? All one can do is present the world with one improved unit. Learn these things yourself, and understand history, understand economics, understand politics. What is the real politics? Not electoral politics which, I would argue, is a scam and a trick to make you think we would be saved if we had Romney instead of Obama.

JW: Government is theater. Would you agree?

LR: Yeah, a bloody theater, a terrible theater, but it is a theater, and they know it. They know this is how to appease the people.

JW: Two psychologists have studied the use of words by politicians in recent years. The most used word now by politicians in America is the word “we.” The use of this word actually gets people to form into a group where essentially they stop thinking. That is connected to the theater concept of controlling people, and I guarantee you that the government hires behaviorists and psychologists, and they study how to manipulate people. What do you think about that?

LR: I remember one of the critics of the Nazis saying that it is an indication of totalitarianism when politicians refer to “our children.” They are not your children. They are God’s children, and they are the parents’ children. They are not the government’s children, but the government, of course, feels they are and they want to shape them. They want to mold them and they want parents to have less and less to do with it. They want them in the public schools from 6 to 6, eating all their meals there and that sort of thing. You know they are not that kind of villain, but they are, in fact, villains. Even if they seem like nice, decent people, they are actually not.

I was once in politics myself before going straight, and I can tell you they are not good people. I encountered only one man whom I thought was thoroughly good, and I had the honor of working for him eventually, and that was Ron Paul, and also the only person in politics I have ever encountered who did not have the lust to rule, the lust to dominate. Ron Paul doesn’t have that, so he was a very odd bird in politics. For him, politics was an educational mission, but most of them want to dominate. Again, most of us are not interested in running the next door neighbor’s family. We don’t want to run the next town. We don’t want to run the next country. We have enough to do with our own families, mowing our lawn, doing our job, earning enough money, and so forth, that is what we want to do. But there are people who want to run the family next door. They want to run the next town. They want to run the world.
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     Hey Brennan it's called Antifa and BLM....nm - tigertix MU - 1/23 09:55:59
     Not what he said - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:00:41
          He's evil and a criminal. nm - MUTGR MU - 1/23 11:37:02
          You’re a lost cause(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 1/23 10:03:03
          it was exactly what he said, you ignorant dishonest - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 09:30:28
               Brennan referenced 80 million Trump voters ? Where?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:38:30
                    “Not what he said.” Stop lying, rask (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:41:09
                    to whom was he referring, rask? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 09:39:50
                         To 500 or so militants on Cap HIll 1/6. Thanks for coming(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 10:21:39
                              RE: To 500 or so militants on Cap HIll 1/6. Thanks for coming(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 10:25:21
                         500 insurrectionists on 1/6 who brought weapons & zip ties(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 10:10:03
                              RE: 500 insurrectionists on 1/6 who brought weapons & zip ties(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 10:25:27
          What did he say that was wrong? Why don’t you help him, - hokie VT - 1/23 09:11:45
               Comment had nothing to do with 80 million Trumpers - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:18:26
                    You said he misquoted brennan. How? Nm - hokie VT - 1/23 09:22:13
                         No I did not say that - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:28:07
                              So when you wrote, “Not what he said”, you meant that - hokie VT - 1/23 09:36:21
                                   Stop spinning, you are going to get dizzy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:39:06
                                        you’re the only one spinning - pickle MU - 1/23 09:41:55
                                        holy irony, batman (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:39:33
                              Yes, you did: “not what he said” (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:34:33
          Not what he said: It is a direct quote, you idiotic liar. - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:04:13
               Hey dippy - my reference was obviously to your comment - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:08:56
                    You said, “Not what he said.” Now you say you were - hokie VT - 1/23 09:15:17
                         Stop digging(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:17:38
                              You are simply delightful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/23 09:18:52
                                   RE: You are simply delightful: He can't help it, its in his - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:29:11
                                        Show the lie boy(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:34:25
                                             Show the lie boy: Keep digging dumba$$. You have fooled - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:36:20
                                   RE: You are simply delightful - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:25:14
                                        what did you set straight? (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:25:59
                                             Thank you . That did not take long - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:36:09
                                                  there it is (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:36:36
                                                       Well, he is very consistent. So there’s that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/23 09:38:22
                    now you’re lying, and doing a terrible job of it (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:14:03
                         Prove it - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:16:59
                              “Not what he said.” - pickle MU - 1/23 09:22:57
                                   RE: “Not what he said.” - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:30:10
                                        The 80 million wasn’t part of the quote - pickle MU - 1/23 09:34:08
                                             No **** Sherlock, thus my point. - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:37:18
                                                  Holy **** you’re stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:53:13
                                                       Hey dippy read this - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 10:12:06
                                                            false - ashtray UF - 1/23 10:13:23
                                                                 Jesus Fcking Christ - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 10:18:13
                                                                      and you may have a valid point, but it doesn't change - ashtray UF - 1/23 10:24:42
                              rask is actually right here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/23 09:21:03
                                   RE: rask is actually right here: He is the type of liar who - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:34:36
                                   When you educate a stupid man, you get Raskputin. Nm - hokie VT - 1/23 09:24:22
                              it's here for everyone to see - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:19:03
                                   This may be where Rask would say "learn the language" - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 09:24:05
          What is troubling about any libertarian? (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/23 09:02:06
               Brennan seemed to add those as an outlier - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:07:09
                    You are a good and decent person. You care about - hokie VT - 1/23 09:20:05
                    There are no accidents or missteps when something like this - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 09:11:55
                         He wasn't speaking in generalities but identifying - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:14:44
                              "Brennan seemed to add those as an outlier"............. - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 09:22:44
                                   "and even" is a qualifier old man nearly an afterthought(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:24:11
                                        no it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:25:50
                                             Give the bone up lil fella(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:31:54
                                                  You ****ed up, lied, and have no integrity - pickle MU - 1/23 09:35:18
                                             Perhaps it is a qualifier to say "oops, forgot to add......" - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 09:27:22
                                        RE: "and even" is a qualifier old man nearly an afterthought(nm) - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 09:24:51
                              no you didn’t. you rushed to defense of the Party - pickle MU - 1/23 09:22:12
                    rask, you are ignorant of everything - pickle MU - 1/23 09:11:22
                    Libertarians are not "in it for themselves". - ummmm MU - 1/23 09:10:24
                         the entire philosophy is about human interaction - pickle MU - 1/23 09:11:53
                    because you are ignorant and a collectivist (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:08:13
                         RE: because you are ignorant and a collectivist (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:11:38
                              No you aren’t. you have no care or concern for anyone else - pickle MU - 1/23 09:21:27
                              you could have just said "Yes, I'm an ignorant collectivist" - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:12:21
                                   THAT sir, would have been a lie - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:19:30
                                        again, you just cannot help yourself - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:25:07
                                             Prove where I posted a falsehood - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:33:38
                                                  In your subject line (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:54:15
                                                       80 million is not what Brennan said(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 10:13:26
                                                  your subject line was the falsehood, fcktard (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:38:27
                                        No, it’s the truth and accurate - pickle MU - 1/23 09:24:16
               RE: What is troubling about any libertarian? (nm) - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:05:12
               he must be referring to the fake libertarians like - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:03:24
     "insurgency movements" aka "the other party" lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 08:47:58
     People think they way they act - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/23 08:46:00
          Brennan was never qualified to work for CIA, let alone run - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 08:58:17
               25 yrs in the CIA, never qualified ? he was a Fordham man - raskolnikov MU - 1/23 09:22:41
                    LMAO (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:26:46
     Coming to a protest soon..... - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:30:50
          Insurrection! Domestic terrorism! White supremacy! All - hokie VT - 1/23 08:35:38
               Brennan will have the insurrectionists in gulags. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:38:47
          “Police in riot gear detained hundreds of protesters” - pickle MU - 1/23 08:33:28
               The difference is..... - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:37:30
                    there is no difference - pickle MU - 1/23 08:38:28
                         You know who else railed against govt and taxation? - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:40:00
                              the founding fathers (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/23 08:48:34
                              The government's action at Waco ignited McVeigh - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 08:46:44
                                   Pickle McVeigh(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:52:04
                                   which means Clinton incited OKC bombing - ashtray UF - 1/23 08:47:39
                                        Janet Reno, but yes (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:12:45
                                        ^^^ ashtray Nichols (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:53:39
                                             ^^^^ Tigrrrr! Earl Bradley (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 08:55:44
                                                  Brennan will come after the libertarians first. - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 08:57:41
                                                       as i said, you don’t know when to be quiet (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 09:15:40
                                                            Pickle McVeigh(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/23 09:32:29
                                                       Brennan will come after the libertarians: Good luck finding - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:02:18
                                                       good luck with that (nm) - ashtray UF - 1/23 09:00:16
     And if they find folks are fed up with the political class? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/23 08:23:02
          RE: And if they find folks are fed up with the political class? - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 09:02:59
          The Club isn't interested in what the nation thinks or feels - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 08:34:04
               or yesterday (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 08:37:14
                    Yep...... - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/23 08:39:08
          lol - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/23 08:33:20
          lol (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 08:28:48
          That’s true but um, you could have said the same about - hokie VT - 1/23 08:27:48
               Revisiting State worship (from interview w/Lew Rockwell) - pickle MU - 1/23 08:30:44
     He is part of the deep state. He needn’t be on the - hokie VT - 1/23 08:21:55
     How long have you been out of government? - tigerdb MU - 1/23 07:55:10
          Do you anticipate the Biden regime to rule over us in bene - BH O'bonga MU - 1/23 07:59:42
               no President is legitimate - ashtray UF - 1/23 08:12:44
               benevolent? I'm guessing that biden's administration will - tigerdb MU - 1/23 08:01:57
               you didn’t answer (nm) - pickle MU - 1/23 08:01:47




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