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Posted on: November 10, 2020 at 09:40:57 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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M.O.B. Votes:

Here is the definition of treason: "the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."

If we place our legitimate government through elections, and you are purposefully working to create fraud in those elections, how are you not working to overthrow the legitimate government?

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So for the 80 - 100,000 involved in this operation, how - TrumpToRushmore MU - 11/10 09:30:36

If people knowingly participate in election fraud - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:32:23

agreed, it's treason of the very worst kind (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 09:35:18

LOL (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/10 09:38:42

How is it treason? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:38:33

treason is "the crime of betraying one's country"... - zounami MU - 11/10 09:43:07

better pull out that pocket constitution - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:44:10

How is it not? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:40:57

Back to Eric Trump's tweet, encouraging late voting AND - tigerdb MU - 11/10 10:23:01

Clear sedition. Eric & Donald should be locked up for good - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:33:18

Yes, if you believe this is what they were doing you are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:37:19

What happened to your strong stance on punishing all those - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:41:27

No, I am not stupid enough to believe you should take one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:46:25

Me? I never once advocated to - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:49:32

I said if people are found guilty of those they should be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 11:01:11

false - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:41:41

Then make your case based on the Constitution's definition - zounami MU - 11/10 09:46:51

Very simple google search to stay informed of what you're - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:49:35

Even if you interpret that as excluding election fraud... - zounami MU - 11/10 09:55:21

it isn't subject to change without a Constitutional - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:57:49

subject to change, via Constitutional amendments or - zounami MU - 11/10 10:02:06

no (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:03:34

lol, ok (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 10:07:35

So I am heartened you would agree the entire separation of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:52:05

see below (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:48:10

And how is seeking to defraud our system of government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:44:39

Their premise that the Constitution's definition of treason - zounami MU - 11/10 09:51:32

the Constitution is not a living document - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:56:35

You're wrong, again. The proof is how it's evolved over time - zounami MU - 11/10 10:00:28

how progressive of you - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:04:43

I'm not saying I agree, I'm saying its the reality of what's - zounami MU - 11/10 10:07:08

which is why Rs threw their support behind the SC nominee - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:08:19

And also librarian hot(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:11:21

I would do her. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 10:11:49

It would seem her husband greatly enjoys it(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:12:56

I'm normally not into women that age, but her looks and - zounami MU - 11/10 10:18:13

I love brilliantly smart women - and she sat there and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:19:11

I agree... what's your point? (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 10:10:59

While I would like to think our Constitution is not a living - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:54:53

In that it's designed to be amended by the Congress & States - zounami MU - 11/10 09:57:54

Well that's a huge stretch. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:46:14

Fine - if you think to large a stretch call it sedition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:47:08

It's not about what I think. It's about what the judges - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:48:39

He urged them to do what I told people to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:50:11

do you really mean 'see if they catch it' - DC Jayhawk KU - 11/10 10:02:44

My advice to people I talked to was to notify the poll - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:05:21

If they had such a concern, they should not have mailed - tigerdb MU - 11/10 10:45:26

Totally agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:47:45

It just seems odd to encourage people that already voted, - tigerdb MU - 11/10 11:01:03

"see if they catch it" - meatiger MU - 11/10 09:54:20

If you already voted, and they official voting roll - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:56:05

In PA (for example) - the (republican) state legislature did - tigerdb MU - 11/10 10:43:54

Are there many circumstances of that? - meatiger MU - 11/10 09:58:09

I have no idea(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:00:15

"Raise holy hell" is not what he urged. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:51:19

If they have not recorded the vote they cast - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:54:08

If you drop your ballot in the mail, you have voted. - tigerdb MU - 11/10 10:24:44

Not if you do what I suggested - stop being silly(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:30:47

If you were checking, you would go to the polling place - tigerdb MU - 11/10 10:37:36

That's illegal (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:06:44

mail in ballots have tracking information - meatiger MU - 11/10 09:55:41

Best way to test it is to allow the official system to work - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:01:25

Agreed - meatiger MU - 11/10 10:08:45

I have been told Trump called racists good people at - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:10:43

I linked his own words below. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:13:55

And people linked Trump's words at Charlottesville - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:15:32

What not address this very clear post. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:20:00

Here is Trump's problem - meatiger MU - 11/10 10:18:21

and the best way to test bank security is to rob it? (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:05:24

lol, perfect analogy (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:07:26

Actually not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:09:50

Oh, you were tasked with making sure the election was safe? - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:12:04

If you attempt to rob a bank, particularly in the age of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:14:11

"chance gunfire may occur" or someone "attempting to - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:16:51

Yes, when it occurs it is no longer a threat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:18:26

ok, instead of robbery... - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:15:25

And often banks will hire people to do just that to see - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:17:05

and those people can be prosecuted under the law (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:17:51

If they perform an illegal act, that is true(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:24:39

happens when the bank hires them to do it - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:11:21

And again, my advice is not to illegally cast a second vote - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:12:17

If you are robbing a bank you have not right to the money - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:06:28

you don't have the right to vote twice (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:06:52

And as I said, there are procedures for that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:07:44

Not every ballot is counted on election day. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:10:59

Is that the exhaustive discussion on the subject? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:23:59

Yes. That was a standalone tweet. There were no other w - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:27:01

OK - if you believe Trump is pushing open and aggressive - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:32:01

Why add "open and aggressive"? - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:38:09

Because if you actually think about it, those who - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 10:40:10

Ah, the old "he couldn't be that dumb" defense. - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 10:46:35

yes, that is an example of sedition (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:11:55

taking your morning stretch? (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:46:12

As I said, if you think it too far call it sedition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:48:09

it isn't sedition, either (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:49:04

no, it isn't treason (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:37:50

only to those who do not know what "treason" means (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 09:43:29

wow, the irony is rich (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:44:23

explain, if you're able to (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 09:47:45

do your own homework - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:49:56

i.e. you can't (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 10:03:03

this is the part where you sing and dance like a child - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:05:53

He would say this is not an act of war and is not aiding - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:49:19

Correct. If he tried he would be wrong, and again, I reject - zounami MU - 11/10 10:04:56

you're incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:06:34

It's probably a - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/10 09:39:25

would "tamper with them" include suggesting people should - kmawv8 MU - 11/10 09:35:10

Yes - if knowingly participate in fraud, - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/10 09:38:47

you mean like mail in your vote - meatiger MU - 11/10 09:36:11

Election fraud should be punishable by death. I'm serious. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 09:31:24

from the pro-life crowd - ashtray UF - 11/10 09:38:29

I'm vehemently pro-choice. (nm) - zounami MU - 11/10 10:08:56

In fact, I'm a proponent of allowing late-term abortion and - zounami MU - 11/10 10:10:13

lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 11/10 10:12:15

It's the one issue I'm "left" of pretty much everyone on. * - zounami MU - 11/10 10:13:09

I don't doubt it. - Toger STL - 11/10 09:34:25

500,000 SEALED INDICTMENTS - TigerJackSwartz MU

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DO SOMETHING! - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/10 09:38:07

Instant Death - 615Tiger STL - 11/10 09:31:18