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Posted on: July 15, 2020 at 17:58:26 CT
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/08/13/too_bad_obama_didnt_follow_his_own_advice_123650.html

If only the current-day President Obama could travel back in time and warn his newly elected self about the dangers of pursuing a governing agenda that excludes and alienates the opposition.

In the first quote above, Obama is describing the “maximalist” positions of the Maliki government in Iraq, arguing that its behavior destined it to fail in the long term. He returned to the theme later in the interview, this time applying it to U.S. domestic politics:

“Our politics are dysfunctional, and something that I said earlier serves as a warning to us: and that is, societies don’t work when political factions take maximalist positions. And the more diverse the country is, the less it can afford to take maximalist positions.”

This is sage advice. Too bad he didn't follow it himself.

So much of the president’s current troubles can be traced back to his comment to Eric Cantor, which the president uttered at a meeting held just three days into his first term. The setting was a White House meeting hosted by the freshly inaugurated president and his top economic advisers. Their guests were congressional leaders of both parties and both chambers of Congress—there to discuss the framework of the huge stimulus bill hurtling through the newly installed 111th Congress.

Despite Obama’s bravado in the meeting, he also expressed openness to the ideas Cantor proposed. As Carl M. Cannon and I reported in our eBook, “Election 2012: The Battle Begins,” Republican lawmakers left the White House feeling Obama was sincere in his desire to work with them on crafting the legislation.

But it quickly became apparent that this was little more than lip service. Republicans discovered that most of the stimulus bill had already been written behind closed doors by Nancy Pelosi and David Obey, then chairman of the House Appropriations Committee. Obama failed to step in, and almost nothing Republicans suggested to the president was seriously considered by Democrats, let alone incorporated into the legislation.

Republicans felt used by the president, and disrespected by their colleagues on the other side of the aisle. Not a single GOP House lawmaker voted in favor of the stimulus. Whatever political goodwill that existed in the aftermath of the 2008 election was gone less than a week after Obama’s inauguration. The well was poisoned then and there.

The president followed up his stimulus package victory by moving full steam ahead on a gargantuan health care bill that was eventually passed a year later—again strictly along party lines—with the help of procedural gimmicks and backroom deals.

If Obama ever had a chance to “un-poison” the well with the GOP, it vanished when the Affordable Care Act became law in early 2010. But imagine how things could have played out differently if Obama in 2009 had taken the advice from himself on Friday. Imagine if the president had chosen to accommodate his political opponents early on, instead of pressing forward with a maximalist “my way or the highway” attitude.

At the time, Republicans were weak, rudderless, and demoralized. Obama’s approval rating in late January 2009 stood over 63 percent and his disapproval rating was only 20 percent. The GOP was reeling from an election in which they were routed pretty much across the board by a popular new president, including a big loss among independents voters. Obama’s not the first president, nor will he be the last, to misread his election as a “mandate.” It would have taken real insight, and no small amount of political courage, for Obama to compromise. His progressive base, still euphoric over his election, would have been livid at the idea of working with Republicans. Instead of extending a hand to their defeated political opponents, liberal activists preferred putting a boot on their throats.

However, as Democrats should now see in hindsight, a smarter strategy would have been to encourage Republicans to buy into the stimulus bill right from the start. The package would have had to be smaller, true, but bringing Republican moderates with him could have changed the entire trajectory of Obama’s first term. Not only would they have given him significant political cover, but he would have effectively split the Republican caucus – thereby weakening it even further. Instead, he instantly unified it.

Liberal critics say that Obama didn’t really have a negotiating partner—the same complaint conservatives make in reverse—and that compromising with Republicans in 2009 and 2010 on the budget and health care wouldn’t have translated into any significant Republican support.

Perhaps that’s true, but we’ll never know because he didn’t try it. It turns out Americans didn’t elect Obama in 2008 because they were desperate for universal health care. They elected him because of his aspirational appeal, which included a promise to be “post-partisan,” to be pragmatic, and to deliver on his promise to “fix” our broken political system. But the very first decision he made— in hindsight, perhaps the most consequential of his presidency—only served to bust our political system further. It’s been more or less downhill ever since.

Edited by Spanky at 18:07:10 on 07/15/20
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Did anyone answer the question Biden raised of why we have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/15 14:57:13
     Those shovel ready jobs weren't and the infrastructure money - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/15 16:15:47
          Union pension plans got a bunch, which is really just - Fred G. Sanford MSU - 7/15 17:13:53
     8 years of Senate obstruction. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:22:32
          I believe the Dems had a super majority for a few years... - Lerxst MU - 7/15 16:56:44
               Only a few weeks, actually, due to the late placement of - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:58:17
                    So who took their place. A couple of GOPers? (nm) - Lerxst MU - 7/15 19:44:40
          damn man, you are really dumb (nm) - Sal MU - 7/15 16:31:13
          why are you stupid? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 16:03:15
          Harry obstructed?(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/15 15:48:51
               McConnell. Filibuster. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:49:32
                    Look up super majority and the last time a particular... - Lerxst MU - 7/15 16:57:28
                         Already addressed elsewhere. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:58:50
                    Biden..work across the aisle and negotiate(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/15 16:00:53
                    Harry went nuclear on appointments - Spanky KU - 7/15 16:00:00
                         And McConnell.did the same for SCOTUS. If the Dems - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:01:30
                              Half-Ass Harry was very, very dumb.(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/15 16:05:35
          Isn't that an even worse condemnation of Biden? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 15:24:30
               More of an indictment of McConnell, who blocked anything - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:25:40
                    The GOP did not get control of the Senate until year 7 - Spanky KU - 7/15 15:51:41
                         Doesn't matter. Yiu need 60 votes in the Senate to pass most - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:04:37
                              So............ N-E-G-O-T-I-A-T-E - Spanky KU - 7/15 16:06:35
                                   McConnell wouldn't negotiate in good faith. What about - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:21:31
                                        Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day I won - Spanky KU - 7/15 17:58:26
                                             Goodness forbid anyone should try and do something good. I - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 19:02:02
                    and biden and obama's behavior had nothing to do with that? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 15:36:41
                         Very little. McConnell said from day one his only goal was - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:51:14
                              Many Pinocchio's in that claim - Spanky KU - 7/15 15:52:34
                                   Actually, no. 2010 is the first time it appeared in print. N - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:00:28
                                        Actually.. yes.(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/15 16:01:23
                    So since Biden can’t deal with the Senate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/15 15:26:54
                         He'll do better in 2021 when the Senate is flipped - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:29:01
                              lol do you think the dems are going to take a 2/3rds - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:44:39
                                   Nope, simple majority only is needed. The procedure was done - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:58:53
                                        lol your talking about the nuclear option not amending the - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 16:03:43
                                             Already been done twice, idiot, without two-thirds approval - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:53:03
                              Neither of which will happen - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/15 15:30:43
                                   Both of which will happen, mostly because of who Trump is - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:31:58
                                        I see you've not been paying attention...the worm - Logan BAMA - 7/15 15:43:37
                                             Okay. I imagine they will stay as silent as they did in 2018 - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 16:59:49
                                                  This isn't 2018...a lot has happened since then. - Logan BAMA - 7/15 17:09:49
                                                       Yeah. Trump has gotten even worse since 2018. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 19:03:31
          RE: 8 years of Senate obstruction. Nm - dangertim MU - 7/15 15:23:11
               Unlike the current president, Obama only wrote EOs for - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:24:44
                    That's just plain ridiculous. - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 15:50:17
                         He has to be the least informed poster on this board - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:52:11
                              No. What I say doesn't fit in with what you want to - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 17:01:20
                    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha like DACA? - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:26:46
                         DACA was upheld in court, so yes, exactly like DACA.nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:30:06
                              DACA is not "supported by law" you unbelievable moron - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:37:15
                                   A right wing majority SCOTUS just ruled against you. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 17:01:58
               lol another Sparkyism - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:24:24
                    So, by definition, unfiltered truth, unlike your Raglie.nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 15:26:30
                         No just another example of you showing how big of a dumba$$ - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:37:57
                              Spoken like the Ragliar that you are. You certainly have - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/15 17:02:52
     That's why pols with decades of experience - BigDave MU - 7/15 15:16:21
     Sounds like a defensive question to me. - Toger STL - 7/15 15:16:00
     They couldn't find enough shovels for all those shovel ready - BH O'bonga MU - 7/15 15:15:11
     Didn't DLB make a campaign promise to fix it? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 7/15 15:14:19
          RE: Didn't DLB make a campaign promise to fix it? - meatiger MU - 7/15 15:28:08
          He has brought up infrastructure many times - meatiger MU - 7/15 15:19:10
          RE: campaign promise: Don't recall that specific promise. - BH O'bonga MU - 7/15 15:16:31
               RE: campaign promise: Don't recall that specific promise. - meatiger MU - 7/15 15:22:20
                    RE: campaign promise: Don't recall that specific promise. - BH O'bonga MU - 7/15 15:25:44
                         RE: campaign promise: Don't recall that specific promise. - TigerJackSwartz MU - 7/15 15:38:21
                              RE: campaign promise: Don't recall that specific promise. - BH O'bonga MU - 7/15 16:01:33
     Everything bad happening started in January of 2017(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/15 15:10:26
     or, what about all his yrs as senator before that? - RHAYWORTH MU - 7/15 15:10:24
     Shovel ready projects was code for union payoffs. Nm - hokie VT - 7/15 15:02:03
          what’s the $6T code for? capitalism? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/15 15:08:18
               Government. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 7/15 15:09:02
          It's becoming one fast. Mostly because of George. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 7/15 15:10:33
          At the debates Trump will(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/15 15:05:06




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