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If you were asked to stand and decided not only not to stand

Posted on: June 5, 2020 at 10:24:28 CT
4TigersinMichigan MU
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but to kneel, I would think even if your intent was good it is disrespectful. You are putting your wants a desires ahead of anything else.

The intent of the person is not what is important.
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Does anyone here believe we will ever eradicate racism? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:22:28
     Not while you are alive - JG A - 6/5 12:38:27
     eventually all races will mix and everybody will - ashtray UF - 6/5 11:47:58
     If it was fat would b against skinny, blond vs brunette tall - TigerFan92 STL - 6/5 10:20:55
     If people still believe racism exists at a level that... - JayRoy KC - 6/5 10:00:21
     That is the question they cannot answer without wanting to - tigertix MU - 6/5 09:50:25
     Wilt Chamberlain called racism “malarkey” and uh... - JayRoy KC - 6/5 09:43:41
     Good Question - o'lineydisciple MU - 6/5 09:39:33
          racism is not innate (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 09:50:05
               Correct. Racism is taught and learned. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 09:52:09
          how is racism innate?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/5 09:48:15
          Assume the best of each of those - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:40:49
     Of course not. Liberals want to repeal human nature with - hokie VT - 6/5 09:36:00
          racism is not human nature. race is a social construct - pickle MU - 6/5 09:40:13
          It is human nature to be racist? - meatiger MU - 6/5 09:37:09
               yes, it's a construct and most certainly learned. Not - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:43:26
               exactly. it’s taught (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 09:40:29
     Why would we want to? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/5 09:30:36
          You have a very odd definition of morality. - Gary Foresight MU - 6/5 09:39:07
               he's correct (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:51:32
               he has a solid grasp of morality - pickle MU - 6/5 09:49:39
          Many have determined that thoughts are to be monitored and - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:33:42
               Drew Brees is a chilling recent example - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:37:04
                    He accepted the false narrative that kneeling was - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 09:51:14
                         Intent is not the issue here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:53:31
                         why did Kap choose to kneel specifically and only during - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:52:22
                              because that was the moment of state worship - pickle MU - 6/5 09:59:12
                                   the flag represents state worship more than any other symbol - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:02:04
                                        the star spangled banner is ritual mass State worship - pickle MU - 6/5 10:19:05
                                             the star spangled banner IS the flag and I didn't say he - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:44:23
                                        The real question is why do we have to play the anthem at - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 10:10:17
                                             On this I tend to agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:14:08
                                             i don't support the playing of the anthem. I'm not - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:12:36
                                                  We all agree on that...good to know. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 10:17:09
                              To draw attention where lots of people would see it - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 09:55:57
                                   I think it's rightfully about the flag, Sparky, because it's - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:59:59
                                        Yes, because the anthem draws the maximum viewership - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 10:03:25
                                             Again, his intent does not mean it isn't disrespectful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:05:34
                                                  What makes it disrespectful? Kap actually changed his - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 10:15:43
                                                       if he changed his protest after speaking with a veteran, - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:45:22
                                                       Because you stand and remove your hat out of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:19:36
                                                            On your last example, take out the part about singing loudly - SparkyStalcup MU - 6/5 10:22:38
                                                                 If you were asked to stand and decided not only not to stand - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:24:28
                                             RE: Yes, because the anthem draws the maximum viewership - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:05:24
                              Good question, as well as the failed notion that if the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:54:37
                    irony since you want to use the guns of gvmt - pickle MU - 6/5 09:41:47
                         ...because he's moral and you and I aren't. He has "objecti - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:44:35
                              You continue to have your own blind spot between the notion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:52:08
                                   systems do not have morality (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 10:32:14
                                   ok, you think we're moral. Now address the point of the post - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:53:49
                                        Whether it is police or private force, society requires - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:56:13
                                             no. that is flat out wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 10:32:41
                                             whose morality is that? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:00:27
                                                  Whomever the society deems appropriate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:02:02
                                                       who is this person "society" to whom you keep referring? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 10:46:14
                                                            Whomever lives in the environment selected - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 11:18:23
                                                       society doesn’t think or decide or act (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 10:33:24
                                   no, that's a deflection (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:53:02
                              LOL......that is like hoping - meatiger MU - 6/5 09:47:32
                    uncountable examples in every day discourse and all - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:40:38
     about 95% of people don't even know what it means. like - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:30:02
          Yup. Shoulda said, social construct-ism. Nm - hokie VT - 6/5 09:37:37
     No - meatiger MU - 6/5 09:29:31
     DNA tampered with so everybody is gray - tigerinhogtown STL - 6/5 09:29:27
     I think the Sacred Scriptures give us the answer as to how: - JeffB MU - 6/5 09:29:18
     No, because we've invented imaginary racism and privilege. - RHAYWORTH MU - 6/5 09:27:58
     The word no longer carries any meaning. - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/5 09:24:00
          but you know the meaning 4Tigs is using - cnk ATL - 6/5 09:34:09
               no I don't that's the point(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/5 09:36:45
                    EDITIED: have you not read 4Tigs posts before? - cnk ATL - 6/5 10:07:45
                         No he's not, don't be that person(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/5 10:15:26
                              He makes a rather serious moral accusation against me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:21:35
                         Please provide your evidence of that statement - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:15:03
                              you don't think that's what racism means? - cnk ATL - 6/5 10:25:03
                                   Calling someone a racist is a really ugly charge - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:28:15
                                        I didn't call you racist, I didn't word my response well - cnk ATL - 6/5 10:34:47
                                             Look - I don't really care - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 10:42:17
                                                  I think you misunderstood my post, so I cleared it up - cnk ATL - 6/5 10:45:24
                                                       Got it - what makes this really interesting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 12:06:22
               i don't (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:36:17
          We have become too emotional if not literally ignorant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/5 09:25:32
               speak for yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 6/5 09:30:07
               Higher education is to blame. They take hundreds of thousand - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/5 09:30:00
               when things get dumbed down to "pick a side" - Eggs MU - 6/5 09:29:41
                    It goes both ways - meatiger MU - 6/5 09:32:28
                         Absolutely - Eggs MU - 6/5 09:36:43
                              we are living in a world here and now in which thoughts are - 90Tiger STL - 6/5 09:45:21




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