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The issue is playing this outfit IN SPRINGFIELD

Posted on: June 2, 2020 at 11:11:08 CT
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Here is a post from PowerMizzou that explains this perfectly:

The issue is playing this outfit IN SPRINGFIELD. If you are not an MU fan who lives in Springfield, and unless you have studied the history of MSU/SMS and its handful of boosters constantly trying to undermine MU, and the chickenbleep ways they had done it for the past 30 years plus, then you really do not understand, and you have no standing to criticize this decision.

The most recent example – In January 2016 after the 2015 racial unrest in Columbia, MSU/SMS attempted to repeal the agreement with MU that gave them the name change, and obtain funding to start professional schools and doctoral programs, shifting the funding for these programs from MU to Springfield. At a time when MU was wounded, they tried in a subversive and dishonest way to take advantage. They failed, thanks to an uprising of MU alumni and supporters.

You do not reward enemies. You do not give them credibility. You do not allow them the perception of equal standing.

As their radio announcer said today after he bushwhacked Cuonzo about this (after getting him on air with the pretense of talking about a Bears fan who just died) – "This game would have been about more than basketball. It would have legitimized us as an equal to MU."

This is precisely why you do not play this outfit in Springfield.

And, from a basketball standpoint, they have been to one NCAA tournament in the 29 years since Spoonhour left to take the job at SLU. They are not KU or Illinois. They are not SLU. And if you think we owe a state school financially – they run an Athletic Department budget deficit of nearly $20 million ANNUALLY. That is not a typo – $20 million! That is $20 million that could be used at MU, or any other state school that values academics, for research, easing student debt, paying faculty and staff, etc. The University of Missouri is not a stimulus program for people with warped priorities and delusional dreams of someday joining the Big 12.

Springfield is a majority MU town. Don't question me, I am a native. And the vast majority of MU supporters in Springfield did not want to see people who slander MU given the stature of a game in Springfield. The Springfield paper even wrote a story about this. If they want to come to Columbia like other state schools have, fine. But, playing this outfit in Springfield makes no sense financially, ethically, or to further the advancement of our basketball program.

Edited by Big Casino at 11:16:58 on 06/02/20
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So now we're not going to play SMS???? - Harold Jenkins - 6/1 18:12:36
     We have nothing to gain from playing a lowly mid-major - zounami MU - 6/3 00:05:40
          I don’t agree, home and home are fun for fans and good for - Catfish MU - 6/3 19:31:03
               MU is not the Bernie Sanders of - Cole Thornton MU - 6/4 14:02:14
     The state legislature should mandate it like Iowa did - Catfish MU - 6/2 14:28:43
          Quit hiding SMS fan - your posts prove it - Cole Thornton MU - 6/2 15:40:20
               You are so wrong 😂 - Catfish MU - 6/2 19:10:45
                    Then read the Big Casino post below - Cole Thornton MU - 6/2 22:53:44
                         The goal should be to get along off the court and - Catfish MU - 6/3 07:30:31
     MU probably got scared and wussed out - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:30:29
          Sad but true....most alums are wusses when it comes to MSU, - tigertix MU - 6/2 17:25:47
               No, most alums are smart enough to know that we have - zounami MU - 6/3 00:13:55
          Dumb - Cosmo MU - 6/2 13:50:02
               correct (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 00:12:06
               They would come to Columbia as well - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 13:56:28
                    SLU will never come to Columbia - Genco98 MU - 6/2 14:39:46
                         SLU wants Chaifetz/Columbia/ScottTrade - doughboy MU - 6/2 16:16:32
                         Which is why we don't play them anymore, which is fine(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 15:12:33
                         That’s kind of the point schedule a home and home - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 14:44:02
                              But the sycophants want only games in Columbia - Genco98 MU - 6/2 15:09:59
                                   It almost happened until Cuonzo got pushback - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 15:14:38
                                        You are changing the subject - Genco98 MU - 6/3 10:32:07
                    But you add those games not at the expense of Chi St - doughboy MU - 6/2 14:21:36
                         No doubt, this is correct (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 15:11:51
                         kU and WSU have already been added to replace those games (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 14:42:49
     The issue is playing this outfit IN SPRINGFIELD - Big Casino MU - 6/2 11:11:08
          BINGO (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 00:03:52
          Amen (nm) - quicksand MU - 6/2 18:36:52
          Well stated, Big Casino. Do not legitimize an inferior - Boothead MU - 6/2 16:41:38
               SMS played William Woods last year but not Drury - Cole Thornton MU - 6/2 22:57:17
          that is all complete and total bs - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:37:20
               Them inappropriately siphoning funding and mis-representing - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:40:25
                    nobody is going to come to Columbia every year to play a - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:45:27
                         Then they don't have to. MU will always be able to fill - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:49:44
                              and our non conf games will continue to have 5000 fans - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:53:09
                                   Our” non conference games. Jeff you sound more like a sms - Boothead MU - 6/2 16:44:05
                                        Sorry, but these non conf filler games are unwatchable - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 21:17:34
                                             Jeff, you have a right to your opinion, but to state - Boothead MU - 6/2 22:08:47
                                   Mizzou Arena attendance would be 0.0 - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:55:09
          Well said, this is all correct too (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 11:41:55
     Planning the development of your program on the basis - jumbo73 MU - 6/2 10:46:48
          too scared they might actually lose - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:47:03
          I think that is misdiagnosing the justification - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 11:46:32
          I think a lot of it is the meager fan support - Genco98 MU - 6/2 10:56:07
     Might be one of the better crowds of the year(nm) - alstl MU - 6/2 10:42:24
     I wish we'd play them in Columbia. - tgr MU - 6/2 10:29:48
     Mizzou athletic admin and many fans are p@ssies - Catfish MU - 6/2 07:21:22
          exactly, scared they aren't what they think they are - Jeff85 MU - 6/2 12:33:51
          Agree 100%(nm) - BlackSheep MU - 6/2 11:40:07
     we woke(nm) - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 6/1 23:55:05
     I think it's disappointing for the Mizzou fans in SW MO - jlbomega MU - 6/1 22:30:38
     Yeah, I was going WTF when I heard about it - implode MU - 6/1 22:20:38
     Good deal(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/1 21:13:45
     it was impressed upon CM how much of a lose-lose - MizzouAstro MU - 6/1 20:32:31
          Mizzou would lose a few games to in-state non-rivals........ - missinglink MU - 6/1 21:02:22
          I would rather see Mizzou have these types of games - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/1 20:58:44
               it's a good thing you're not in charge then (nm) - zounami MU - 6/3 00:26:13
               It would be fine as long as it is held in Mizzou Arena - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 08:48:08
                    Yes. I would be fine playing any team on the map in Columbia - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:04:32
                    Is Mizzou better than UNC, Indiana and Michigan State? - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:04:32
                         I don't know, I don't care about those programs - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 09:49:08
                              Finances are going to make these types of games - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:51:10
                                   Looks like MU found a way to make it work, which is good(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 10:00:10
                         No, which is the whole point - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:05:21
                              Lots of other P6 schools do the same - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:08:25
                                   Depaul is also a terrible comparison - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:37:51
                                        Iowa State has played both Drake and Northern Iowa - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:45:56
                                             CU playing at USD and UNM is not the same - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 10:26:32
                                                  Just examples of regional road games other P6 teams play - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 10:31:13
               hard pass. they do not advance the program in any way(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 08:27:19
                    If SLU is decent it won't help competition wise? - mattieo86 MU - 6/2 08:50:25
                         there are dozens of SLU-level teams we can play - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:03:50
                              There goes the recruiting talk again. Who of significance - sprintcar STL - 6/2 09:09:49
                                   Gordon(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:38:20
                                   Goodwin - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:17:40
                                        You're supposed to be agreeing with me here. Lol.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 6/2 09:23:31
                                             My bad. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 09:26:23
                                                  Exactly - BlackSheep MU - 6/2 11:48:40
                                                  That's my point exactly. Mizzou folks want to talk about - sprintcar STL - 6/2 09:45:46
                                                       Yup yup - BlackSheep MU - 6/2 11:50:48
                                                            Pittsburg State would be an exhibition game - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:03:19
                                                                 Emporia State counted a couple years ago - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 12:06:47
                                                                      Not in the RPI, or other such metrics - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:13:00
                                                                           Counts as a W - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 12:21:37
                                                                                The reason we had 9 wins in 2014-15 is - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 12:37:47
                         Why would it be devastating? We're not getting the better - sprintcar STL - 6/2 08:58:06
                    Incarnate Word and Chicago State do? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 08:31:03
                         no, we can stop scheduling those games too(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 6/2 09:03:08
               why legitimize potential competitors? I would rather play - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 08:13:55
                    Mizzou can play them too. - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 08:21:25
                         I'd rather not bankroll a potential competitor (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 08:32:05
                              I would rather see more interesting noncon games - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 08:38:24
                                   I agree but I don't think SMS is an interesting game and on - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 08:44:13
                                        So we can mark you down in the scared of MO ST column?(nm) - sprintcar STL - 6/2 08:59:39
                                             you can mark me down in the juice is not worth the squeeze - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 10:07:36
                                        So you would prefer Incarnate Word of - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 08:45:45
                                             you have reading comprehension issues. I agree our - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 10:11:43
                                                  Mizzou actually plays a decent schedule compared - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 10:20:43
                                                       okay, I apologize I didn't understand your point and I agree - lqf2b8 MU - 6/2 10:29:30
                                   You can add TCU in that non-conf. - Legendary50 UT - 6/2 08:40:46
                                        I saw that the women are playing TCU - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/2 08:43:00
                                             Okay maybe I read that wrong ....... - Legendary50 UT - 6/2 08:49:11
               Something we agree on. :) (nm) - sprintcar STL - 6/2 08:11:10
               I disagree about SLU, only bc we already play in STL - jlbomega MU - 6/1 22:29:44
                    It would be an easy game for the largest population of - TigerMatt STL - 6/1 22:43:20
                         Takes away from the Braggin Rights - Genco98 MU - 6/2 07:42:20
                              Maybe Mizzou should just replace Illinois with SLU. In the - sprintcar STL - 6/2 07:56:18
                                   That would be like owning bragging rights over ku in footbal - FIJItiger MU - 6/2 08:50:47
                                   40 years of holiday tradition - Genco98 MU - 6/2 07:58:23
                                        That's fair. It's a good game, even if Mizzou has been on - sprintcar STL - 6/2 08:10:40
                                             I gave you my reasons - Genco98 MU - 6/2 08:14:01
     Yes - Panthera MU - 6/1 18:49:12




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