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1. Who is arguing it is the system under which we

Posted on: April 27, 2020 at 10:00:29 CT
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live and function? That's a defense based solely on status quo, and irrelevant to the debate.
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Since some of you don't seem to understand this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:46:37
     I understand exactly where you're coming from. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/27 09:52:06
          And you are welcome to that belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:52:52
               1. Who is arguing it is the system under which we - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:00:29
                    As a nation of laws, status quo is the standard - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:03:31
                         you’re trying to change the argument (nm) - pickle MU - 4/27 10:09:42
                              He has to - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:13:36
                         it's funny.. the very system your defending makes legal - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:07:33
                              Yes, it does, and that is a great shame - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:16:08
                                   it is not immoral. society has made that determination - pickle MU - 4/27 10:20:18
                                   Pretty much blows your position that the law represents - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:18:43
                                        It does reflect the morality of a nation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:20:22
                    That is his only fallback - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:02:52
               They are zealots(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/27 09:56:37
                    So you're a zealot if you argue against something you - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:01:32
                         No, you are a zealot if you look at the current law and - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:05:51
                              nobody is arguing that it isn't the current law. we are - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:09:59
                                   Abortion is not criminal behavior in the US 90 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:15:07
                                        You should try to read: We use the word Criminal or Crime - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:17:55
                                             What should be does not really help in dealing with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:19:27
                              Exactly(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/27 10:06:33
                                   RE: Exactly(nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:10:10
                         That's not what I said, try again(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/27 10:03:01
                              please, correct me and share what you really intended (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:08:57
                    They mean well - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:58:35
                         are you making yourself feel better? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:02:48
                              Expressing reality doesn't really make me feel - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:07:04
                                   I mean with the condescending references which don't - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:08:31
                                        It is pretty much fact - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:12:10
                                             So, do you feel better? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:14:22
                                                  I feel bad for them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:17:03
                                                       Don't feel bad for me, 4Tigs. That's about you, not me. - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:19:18
                                                            I can feel bad for you even if you don't feel bad for - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:21:26
                                                                 You think Libertarians are happy for drug addicts?(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:24:59
                         this is your ignorance of rights - pickle MU - 4/27 10:02:04
               it absolutely is - pickle MU - 4/27 09:54:54
     it is a bailout, and you are stealing from one - pickle MU - 4/27 09:50:03
          You love stealing and criminals - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/27 10:03:06
               no, RHAY. i support rights (nm) - pickle MU - 4/27 10:08:01
     When person A takes money from person C - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:49:38
     The glaring problem with this principle when it comes to - ummmm MU - 4/27 09:48:34
          And that is your take on what is occurring - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:52:10
               ^what a maroon - Panthera MU - 4/27 10:39:16
               it is a perfect summary of exactly what is happening, whethe - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:02:29
               So..if the legislature - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:55:11
                    No, it is the wrong decision - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:56:52
                         but is it government supporting the "moral fiber" of our - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:03:26
                              Our laws don't always support the moral fiber of our - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:04:12
                                   It is when you defended your position on age of - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:05:12
                                        Show me one place I defended a position on any - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:08:46
                                             If you didn't then you never stated what the law should be. - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:10:46
                                                  My argument was never about what I thought it should be - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:13:59
                                                       It is where the gray areas are - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:15:51
                                                            That is not what I asked - so you are now blaming me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:17:36
                                                                 You play a game to fit your agenda - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:23:00
                                                       4Tigs, this is very simple. You've rejected my (our) positi - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:15:46
                                                            I don't know what it should be, but I can sure as hell tell - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:18:34
                         Now you are all over the place - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:57:22
                              Oh, I will - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:59:06
               legality is immaterial (nm) - pickle MU - 4/27 09:54:05
               It is exactly what is happening - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:54:00
                    It could not be further from the truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:55:19
                         your seeing in this thread your lack of principles. you sup - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:04:48
                         it is exactly the same (nm) - pickle MU - 4/27 10:00:01
                         It is exactly the same - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:56:25
                              It was government action that forced the actions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:57:34
                                   Pension mismanagement - meatiger MU - 4/27 09:59:50
                                        Shutting down a business by fiat is nowhere near the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:01:36
                                             Public pensions, 4Tigs. Gvmt mismanaging, stealing from - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:05:56
                                                  No, not anymore than private companies who do the same - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:22:21
                                             I am talking about public pensions(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:02:23
                                                  Doesn't matter - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:04:55
                                                       It is gvmt fiat deciding to rob the pensions, 4Tigs. It's - 90Tiger STL - 4/27 10:06:27
                                                            RE: It is gvmt fiat deciding to rob the pensions, 4Tigs. It's - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:11:43
               Legality is irrelevant to my point. (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/27 09:53:26
                    Not in our society ummmm - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 09:56:19
                         this is about principle, philosophy, and reality - pickle MU - 4/27 09:59:15




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