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In college basketball today, the small forward has become

Posted on: March 30, 2020 at 08:21:37 CT
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A second shooting guard.

This is why we use the term wing today. Wing means off-ball perimeter player.
That covers the shooting guard and the small forward, and in some lineups such as the one we used in 2011, also includes a third guy that might normally fit into the power forward spot.

The traditional lineup of pg-sg-sf-pf-c has not been applicable in college basketball for over 20 years. There are two reasons for this.
1. The convergence of the shooting guard and small forward positions into a common wing role as I explain.
2. The general lack of traditional centers and even power forwards in the modern game. Some teams play with two power forwards because they don’t have a real center. Some teams play with a point guard, three wings, and then either a power forward or a center. Some teams will still play with a center and a power forward, but usually that situation is a power forward that is now what we call a stretch-4.

The best way to describe the stretch-4 is that they are kind of what the small forward was in the old days.

It is hard to have this discussion with Fiji, because he gets so hung up on semantics in the old-fashioned way of doing things
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     are we assuming these players are healthy? - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/30 11:09:27
     Stipanovich - Mizzou1990 MU - 3/30 11:05:44
     I would say Doug Smith, but I'm not sure that his defense - tigerdb MU - 3/29 13:28:13
     John Brown, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 3/29 10:30:05
     RE :AP(nm) - oldtgr MU - 3/29 09:27:58
     One player? Peeler. End of discussion(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 3/29 08:39:10
     Chievous would be the biggest help on this team as I... - Lerxst MU - 3/29 08:11:27
          RE: Chievous would be the biggest help on this team as I... - MNTIGER MU - 3/29 08:45:30
     Ricky Frazier, Chievous, or Byron Irvin in that order. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/29 07:27:44
          Byron over Willie Smith? - Toger STL - 3/29 09:13:30
               We need a small forward/wing more than a guard(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/29 09:46:56
                    What it needs is a guy that can create his own shot, and - alwaysright MU - 3/30 08:10:52
                    Isn't a small forward just a taller guard who doesn't - GA Tiger MU - 3/29 10:17:13
                         In college basketball today, the small forward has become - alwaysright MU - 3/30 08:21:37
                              Any change in how the bigs play today is - GA Tiger MU - 3/30 09:34:20
     Dump Tilmon for Kim Anderson. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 3/28 22:57:38
     Chievous or Doug Smith. Doug could do everything(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/28 22:31:11
          RE: Chievous or Doug Smith. Doug could do everything(nm) - SPD MU - 3/29 21:50:46
               Close one although due to being bigger yes when I look - Erwin Fletcher STL - 3/30 14:26:49
     Chievous clearly - KC rules MU - 3/28 22:28:22
          There are a lot of guys to choose from - Mormad MU - 3/28 22:58:35
               Would have loved to see Sunvold with a three point line - chuckaluck MU - 3/29 07:15:43




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