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This is a different team than last year

Posted on: September 25, 2019 at 13:13:21 CT
FIJItiger MU
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That isn't an accurate baseline.

The comparison I was making was simple common sense. A team is better with its second best player than without its second best player. I don't think anyone believes that putting him back on the field doesn't improve the team.
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Chiefs should trade for Ramsey - Dub C MU - 9/25 11:21:10
     he’s mostly ****ed off about having to play zone, - justwinbaby KC - 9/25 12:24:12
          He's like Gyro to an ambulance... - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 12:25:25
               Hey you never answered what you do for a living... - Gyro MU - 9/25 12:40:48
                    I can tell you I make a lot more than you do, and it - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 13:33:33
                    8th grade student (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 9/25 13:30:31
     No, we are already good enough - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:22:11
          I'm as die hard a Chiefs fan as they come, but you are - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 12:23:36
               If they get home field advantage based on their terrible - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:26:03
                    I don't think you know - GoMizzouTigers MU - 9/25 12:31:21
                         When the lesser team wins unexpectedly (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:32:22
               Even with Ramsey I am saying they wouldn't be by far - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 12:24:21
          Trade Hill for Ramsey(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:23:03
               I'd be fine with trading Watkins for Ramsey - Joeboo MU - 9/25 12:29:39
                    im not giving up jones for ramsey - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:30:19
                         Agree, we will likely just give him up for nothing instead(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:30:38
                              we'll get us a superfast wide receiver. - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:38:18
                              ^^^ dream crusher ^^^(nm) - Joeboo MU - 9/25 12:33:48
               Hill is our second best player, that would make us - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:24:36
                    KC is averaging about 30 PPG and 500 YPG - Eggs MU - 9/25 12:39:49
                         Removing the 2nd best player and someone who - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:59:00
                              And yet, they're playing as good if not better than with - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 13:01:09
                                   No they aren't. If Hill was playing the Chiefs would - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 13:02:25
                                        So there's a baseline to if Hill was playing, but there's - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 13:06:19
                                             This is a different team than last year - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 13:13:21
                         It'd be more if Andy wanted to throttle all 3 teams with - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:41:11
                              Yup, foot was definitely taken off gas in both(nm) - Eggs MU - 9/25 12:43:59
                    And yet, 3-0 and dominating without him. Ramsey is - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:30:45
                         No way. Hill is absolutely irreplaceable and there is - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:31:58
                              With Hardman's emergence, Chiefs have (3) WR threats - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:35:13
                                   Disagree. Hill is still irreplaceable and the 2nd best - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 12:57:19
                                        Mahomes is on pace for a better year than last and that's - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:59:23
                                             Hill isn't a wide receiver. He is an insanely talented - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 13:00:50
                                                  But they aren't any worse without him. If you can get - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 13:02:43
                                                       Yes they are. They would be much better with him (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/25 13:13:54
                                                       Dave - cnk ATL - 9/25 13:04:49
                                                            Dave is not here, man(nm) - Eggs MU - 9/25 13:14:50
                                                            Ha!(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 13:07:08
                                   *4 - sYsTiger MU - 9/25 12:46:56
                                        Hardman, Watkins, DRob if you trade Hill. Plus, Pringle - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:47:56
                                             Watkins tendency to get hurt is my biggest concern - Eggs MU - 9/25 12:54:10
                                                  In juries do happen. It can derail a team pretty quickly. - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 12:55:45
                                                       lol every year with the experts Chargers bullsh*t i laugh - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:56:22
                                                            They'd be pretty salty without the injuries, but would still - Diamond Dave MU - 9/25 13:08:10
                                                                 yeah by playing us. - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 13:21:50
     Yes, even give 2 1st rdrs, where KC looks to draft next 2 yr - Macgrantt MU - 9/25 11:45:52
          is it worth going All-in on 2019, at the detriment of future - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:47:17
               Strike while the iron is hot.Win 1 now & face what's next, - Macgrantt MU - 9/25 11:55:32
               unless Andy Reid is going to retire in the next year or two - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:48:13
                    Don't see Reid retiring anytime soon while holding the - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 11:55:54
                         Hopefully it's not in the plans, but realistically - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:58:11
                              Hopefully not Donovan McNabb redux(nm) - Mormad MU - 9/25 12:04:25
     Agree 100%. Small window where the Chiefs can afford - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 11:37:25
          if you acquire Ramsey, he'd need a new contract immediately - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:43:38
               I thought he still had 1 year after this on his contract - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 11:50:50
                    this is correct. he hates the GM - Dub C MU - 9/25 11:59:45
                         An organization letting players force management changes is - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 12:50:51
                    no way the receiving team would trade a ton of picks without - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:52:20
                         Good point. I guess it all depends on how you work it out - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 11:54:30
               get rid of clark and cancel his contract - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:49:52
                    He has definitely not been the animal he was hyped - Carlos Rossi KC - 9/25 11:52:19
                         as of now, I'll be ****ed if we have to let Chris Jones go - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:56:48
                              and its not even close. you could also argue - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:59:36
     Here's a few names (Athlon's rankings) - Mormad MU - 9/25 11:35:13
     I'd love to have the player, but not at the price - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:32:48
     Great talent. Questionable character. Do the Chiefs really - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 11:26:37
          RE: Questionable character. - Da_Haze KC - 9/25 12:27:34
               Fighting with his head coach on the sidelines. Publicly - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 12:45:45
                    The sickness thing was legit - Da_Haze KC - 9/25 13:08:13
                         Ramsey is overrated, rather have Peters. (Nm - Savage KC - 9/25 13:48:18
          Ward has done a great job and Fuller has been above average - Savage KC - 9/25 11:38:41
               Ward has been mediocre at best (nm) - Da_Haze KC - 9/25 13:09:00
               nelson was ranked high last year - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:43:08
          The real problem is the price tag, length of contract. - RHAYWORTH MU - 9/25 11:33:26
               If they get Ramsey then Jones is gone. IMO that would be a - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 11:37:30
                    right, just losing Jones because you picked up Ramsey - Joeboo MU - 9/25 11:44:52
                         Championships last forever - Da_Haze KC - 9/25 13:10:38
          i didnt want to get rid of peters I - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:28:14
               That was an example of addiction by subtraction. He was, - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 11:35:32
                    i dont believe all that crap. - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:50:35
                         Then don’t. It is obvious that the Chiefs do. other teams - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 12:00:48
                              i just said i dont. and comparing peters to AB is - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:01:31
                                   Not a single Chiefs player complained when he was traded. - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 12:22:36
                                        if they did that would make them the "problem" - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:28:59
                                             Now you are just trying way too hard. His team did not want - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/25 12:42:20
                                                  youre making those things up. - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 12:46:27
               ^^^can't get enough peters^^^(nm) - cnk ATL - 9/25 11:30:25
                    RE: ^^^can't get enough peters^^^(nm) - colonel angus beef KC - 9/25 11:37:50
                    Golf clap - kcmizzou99 MU - 9/25 11:31:03
          he may be better at his job than Peters - Doc Stone MU - 9/25 11:27:21
               Yep, he actually will tackle(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/25 11:32:59




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