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That's why you give them amnesty - puts them on the books

Posted on: May 19, 2019 at 14:30:09 CT
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and then PAYING SS and all the rest. Why you guys fight that I do not understand. It solves a number of issues overnight.

And I don't know WHAT your little Raz land thing was about. But in terms of SS - they don't touch it until like the rest they are old enough to. How do you think Undocumented workers hiding in the shadows are "claiming non-existent kids in their home country"?

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Social Security is Broke, Any "Fix" is a Joke - ummmm MU - 5/19 11:48:06
     Progressive era politics really f*cked up. Now a new - TigerMatt STL - 5/19 14:40:56
     In the 1980s, 90% of all income was included in SS taxes - MrBlueSky MU - 5/19 14:32:12
          more gov't is always your solution - Sal KC - 5/19 16:21:59
          gods below, you're just a horrible person (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 16:06:12
          So you're proposing to lift the cap - ummmm MU - 5/19 14:53:35
          Raise the retirement age for any benefit to 75 - tman MU - 5/19 14:44:40
               IRAs included? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/19 14:45:51
                    Right, hit him where it hurts(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:59:53
                    Why not. Also change rules on Roth IRAs - tman MU - 5/19 14:48:47
                         Sounds like you need to start a Roth. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/19 15:04:55
                              i make too much. Your point(nm) - tman MU - 5/19 15:09:35
     Amnesty for 11 million undocumented and . . . Shazam - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:07:36
          Bullshyte, they don't pay SS. (EITC fraud gets it back) - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 14:24:31
               That's why you give them amnesty - puts them on the books - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:30:09
                    Are they not paying now? Do you think all illegals - tman MU - 5/19 14:31:59
                         Do tell me how folks without social security #s are paying - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:34:31
                              They have SS numbers. Fake ones. - tman MU - 5/19 14:38:48
                         DACA recipients are paying SS (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/19 14:32:49
                              But if we make them all legal SS fixed as they will - tman MU - 5/19 14:43:19
          So you want amnesty because you want to take their money - ummmm MU - 5/19 14:12:28
               Uh gee Beav, if they are living here like citizens for the - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:31:22
                    Yes, there clearly are. - ummmm MU - 5/19 14:54:36
                         OK, yeah the idea is to get them in the system - which when - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 15:01:55
          But are not they already paying taxes? - TGR84 MU - 5/19 14:12:25
               They are not paying social security no. You need a # son(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:31:55
                    Wonder how these illegals are getting paid without a ssn - TGR84 MU - 5/19 21:34:14
                    They use fake ones, or other people's numbers - tman MU - 5/19 14:45:56
                         Correct. They buy the number to get the job. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 16:58:32
          RE: Amnesty for 11 million undocumented and . . . Shazam - MOCO SON MU - 5/19 14:08:45
               Please share with us how you "round up" 11 million people?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 5/19 14:32:40
     What do you plan to tell the 68 million collecting it? - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 12:32:21
          What is your non-gvmt, libertarian solution? (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 12:44:07
               This is the answer you deserve. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 12:52:38
                    answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 12:54:14
                         They are planning on colonizing the moon. You should go. - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/19 13:12:37
                         I did. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 12:55:38
                              what is your non-gvmt, libertarian solution? (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 12:59:29
                                   You've screwed over children, 68 million ss today. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 13:09:24
                                        answer the question, Mr. Real Libertarian - pickle MU - 5/19 13:19:57
                                             I've told you to GFY on many occasions, like today. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 13:53:00
                                                  Just a month ago you said reduce by 20% - pickle MU - 5/19 15:47:34
                                                  Reducing the govt by 15% gets us back to what... 2014? (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:56:59
                                                       It's better than a fantasy of reducing it to zero. - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 13:58:28
                                                            "Mine" is bringing it back to levels of govt interference - ummmm MU - 5/19 14:04:58
                                                                 Wanna bet. Yours fantasy(nm) - tman MU - 5/19 14:33:04
                                                                      Huh? (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/19 14:36:57
                                             Shut up, shìthead(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/19 13:36:40
                                        Mo gubmit. The only thing that can take away the - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 13:12:32
                                             Wrong place - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:16:55
                                                  You'll get paid your retirement. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 13:19:10
                                                       Lol. You show the giant gaping flaw in pickle logic - RHAYWORTH MU - 5/19 13:55:29
          "Sorry, but we lied to you and we will no longer steal from - ummmm MU - 5/19 12:34:02
               RE: "Sorry, but we lied to you and we will no longer steal from - scan MU - 5/19 12:51:09
                    Sorry, man. You're a victim of theft and you're not getting - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:13:37
                         RE: Sorry, man. You're a victim of theft and you're not getting - scan MU - 5/19 13:15:39
                              Another childish, pouty post (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 13:23:35
                                   RE: Another childish, pouty post (nm) - scan MU - 5/19 13:24:46
                                        You weren’t stating facts - pickle MU - 5/19 13:26:20
                              Yeah, I know it's not popular. Hence how govt gets people - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:18:02
                                   RE: Yeah, I know it's not popular. Hence how govt gets people - scan MU - 5/19 13:21:09
                                        If opinions changed on looting their children and - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:24:44
                                        We aren’t pretending (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 13:24:11
                    I would just settle for being given now the exact amount - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:00:45
                         It's a pay-as-you-go system, however, - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/19 13:58:13
                         Paper mache artist?(nm) - Toger STL - 5/19 13:19:25
                              This isn’t a “life goals” thread - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:21:26
                         Your money isn't there. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:14:09
                              I am not counting on seeing one penny of it. Ever. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:19:08
                                   I wouldn't take that deal. I'd take a deal that stopped - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:25:31
                                        Since I am counting on nothing from that money - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:28:05
                                             Just wait until government comes for 401Ks.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/19 13:34:10
                                                  Some on the left already wish to do that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:35:49
                                                       RE: Some on the left already wish to do that - scan MU - 5/19 13:39:25
                                                            RE: Some on the left already wish to do that - pickle MU - 5/19 13:43:09
                                                       It'll be done to save SS. So, it's a bipartisan effort - ummmm MU - 5/19 13:37:41
                                             ^^ here you are, scan (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 13:30:09
                                   So you admit your post was dumb(nm) - meatiger MU - 5/19 13:20:35
                                        How was it dumb? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:22:43
                                             RE: How was it dumb? - meatiger MU - 5/19 13:43:35
                                                  That is why I phrased it as I did - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 14:01:10
                                                  Your post was dumb - FootballRefugee MU - 5/19 13:54:49
                              It's amazing. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 13:17:13
                                   RE: It's amazing. - scan MU - 5/19 13:18:39
                                        Many folks really think their money is there. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 13:20:47
                                             RE: Many folks really think their money is there. - scan MU - 5/19 13:22:28
                                                  Well, 4tigs said he would be glad to have the gubmit just - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/19 13:25:28
                                                       I made a mistake. I admit it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:31:21
                         RE: I would just settle for being given now the exact amount - scan MU - 5/19 13:03:46
                              I know. But I’d take that loss to stop the bleeding - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:06:51
                                   lol, that money isn't there. your money is gone, you're taki - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 15:02:24
                                        Damn - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 15:13:19
                                             unresponsive (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 5/19 19:43:47
                                                  OK. I never said it was there. I responded to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 20:01:09
                    You aren’t entitled ti other people’s money (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 12:54:52
                         RE: You aren’t entitled ti other people’s money (nm) - scan MU - 5/19 12:56:04
                              No, you’re asking for more than yours - pickle MU - 5/19 12:58:40
                                   RE: No, you’re asking for more than yours - scan MU - 5/19 13:02:43
                                        The only thing i am defending - pickle MU - 5/19 13:04:59
                                             RE: The only thing i am defending - scan MU - 5/19 13:06:06
                                                  that was a childish, pouty post - pickle MU - 5/19 13:21:58
                                                       RE: that was a childish, pouty post - scan MU - 5/19 13:23:39
                                                            Your reaction was equally childish then (nm) - pickle MU - 5/19 13:27:55
                                                            Totally ignoring him is your best bet - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:25:20
                                                                 RE: Totally ignoring him is your best bet - scan MU - 5/19 13:27:06
                                                                      Just be done with him permanently. Trust me on this. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/19 13:35:14
                                                                      taking your ball and going home - pickle MU - 5/19 13:29:14
     odd statement ... - tmcats KSU - 5/19 11:54:51
          Not true - meatiger MU - 5/19 12:03:55
          And smaller employers cannot weather the equal treatment - ummmm MU - 5/19 12:03:02




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