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Posted on: February 21, 2019 at 10:35:32 CT
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But what his critics both now and then fail to recognize is that Lincoln had only one constitutional duty: to suppress the rebellion and restore the Union, and to do this he had to maintain a working coalition of, on the one hand, his own Republican party, which sought to end slavery and on the other, "War Democrats," who were willing to fight to restore the Union but who did not want to interfere with slavery.

In addition-and this is critically important to understand-Lincoln had no power to end slavery on his own. In this age of executive overreach when our current president seems to believe that he may do whatever he wants "with a phone and a pen," it is imperative for us to understand that Lincoln accepted the fact that he was constrained by the Constitution, which granted the Federal government no authority over the institution of slavery in the states where it existed. This authority lay strictly with the states themselves. Thus Lincoln could not, as one recent critic has written, simply end slavery with the stroke of a pen.

Lincoln clearly and concisely conveyed his understanding of his constitutional responsibility to save the Union and preserve the Constitution in a famous letter to Horace Greeley:

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored, the nearer the Union will be to "the Union as it was"....My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.
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14th Amendment only exists because of coercion. - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 09:31:37
     Congress had no power to deny a state representation - Spanky KU - 2/21 10:20:35
          This ruling suggest that there was some question about that - DHighlander KC - 2/21 10:42:04
               That does not address denying the citizens of a state - Spanky KU - 2/21 10:53:54
                    Doesn't matter. It happened.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 11:21:20
                         It was allegedly threatened... but I doubt any smart - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:37:22
                              Did states secede?(nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 11:39:30
                                   No - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:04:28
                                        States didn’t secede??? - pickle MU - 2/21 12:22:10
                                             No. They TRIED to secede, Dumb@$$. - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:26:20
                                                  LMFAO!!! (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 12:27:52
                                                       Do you think the Confederate states were successful in - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:50:47
          Then you ignore history.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 10:40:42
     I guess that would be coercion. Guess you guys - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:05:26
          Ignorance (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 10:12:02
     But each state is its own country - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 09:49:22
          you're an incredibly slow learner, or simply unwilling. The - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:01:44
               Neither is the civil war for that matter. South wanted - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:07:49
                    I've never understood the Lincoln love. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/21 10:13:19
                         Use whatever label you choose to create, he - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:22:11
                              You've been brainwashed by gov't schooling. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 2/21 10:32:31
                              It wasn’t and isn’t one country. - pickle MU - 2/21 10:24:42
                         Was Lincoln the original "NEOCON!!"(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 2/21 10:20:36
                              No (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 10:23:26
                    Well that’s an inaccurate summary - pickle MU - 2/21 10:12:41
                    lol, GA, keep doing you (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:08:11
                         Just did..and so did you. I said something, you didn't.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:11:15
                              why repeat it, you'll just ignore it. That wasn't the - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:15:46
                                   Ok, repeat it...what was the basis?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:22:55
                                        Quick Question: If Lincoln fought the civil war to - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:50:56
                                             IOW, you wanted him to attack and initiate conflict and - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 12:20:04
                                        RE: Ok, repeat it...what was the basis?(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:45:01
                                        RE: Ok, repeat it...what was the basis?(nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:43:28
                                        and now, put it in context - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:35:32
                                             Screw the constitution, if thats what it took to - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 12:17:45
                                                  GAT, what do letters U and S stand for in USA? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 12:24:21
                                        Start here - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:33:53
                                             Basically nothing I haven't already said.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 12:18:16
                                   Never argue with the guy who was there 90. Does no good(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 2/21 10:22:33
          you’re really struggling. The independent, soveriegn states - pickle MU - 2/21 09:52:50
               A confederation proven unworkable and inadequate - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:10:03
                    GAT, the US today is a confederation - pickle MU - 2/21 10:15:52
                         Every state knew of it, and when and all sent - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 10:27:12
                              Omg - pickle MU - 2/21 10:41:24
               He's confused by historical events that have actually - ummmm MU - 2/21 09:56:18
                    Lol Immune? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:01:05
                         No you aren’t. And the states are not subservient - pickle MU - 2/21 10:06:34
                         You have almost no knowledge of the text of the - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:04:13
                              Supremacy clause, friend - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:05:17
                                   I don't see the term "subservient state" in there. - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:09:27
                                        RE: I don't see the term "subservient state" in there. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:09:56
                                             RE: I don't see the term "subservient state" in there. - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:27:51
                                             You need to add the first part of that independent clause - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:12:09
                                                  Can you answer my question here, too. - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:48:59
                                                  The Constitution is the supreme law of the land - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:28:12
                                                       RE: The Constitution is the supreme law of the land - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:52:29
                                                       That’s not what the clause says - pickle MU - 2/21 10:36:48
                                                            Tony Stark:Ultron::States:Federal Gov't(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 10:38:22
                                                       So, then it's a matter of what's actually contained in the - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:29:45
                                   LMAO - pickle MU - 2/21 10:07:17
                                        RE: LMAO - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:07:29
                                   it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:06:56
                         no you aren't (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:02:07
                              In fact, I have a pocket constitution - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 10:03:30
                                   I have "how to speak Russian in 10 days" in mine. "Sub - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 10:06:09
                                   And I have a treadmill in my basement. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 10:04:33
                                        we moved our dining room furniture to storage and - 90Tiger MU - 2/21 11:49:22
     Sounds divisive. Can't we all just come together and love - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/21 09:48:19




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