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Posted on: December 12, 2018 at 08:41:38 CT

MrBlueSky MU

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M.O.B. Votes:

Lincoln was a savage tyrant, and an enemy of liberty.

Pickle, newcatbirdseat, etc., cannot have that view while rejecting the clear truth that the CSA was tyrannical and an enemy of liberty.

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Interesting thought about black people - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/12 05:36:21

Wrong attribution dummy(nm) - McKinneyTiger MU - 12/12 08:24:28

It doesn't matter, the OP and pickle and others - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:26:20

Pickle has never said or supported any of that - ummmm MU - 12/12 09:11:12

The ignorant straw man - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:28:00

Not at all. Your criticism of Lincoln as a tyrant is - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:29:58

You can be against both war and slavery. - ummmm MU - 12/12 09:14:53

It is a straw man (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:33:26

You're so principled that you will defend humans - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:35:01

You are the one who keeps bringing up the CSA (nm) - Sal KC - 12/12 08:41:16

What are we talking about here? Lincoln's tyrannical - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:42:31

Exactly, the discussion is about Lincoln - Sal KC - 12/12 08:43:40

I've never seen Pickle defend humans owning other humans - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/12 08:38:56

He defends the CSA's sovereignty and claims Lincoln - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:40:37

lol woo boy, ok well I know you aren't lying - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/12 08:46:57

I'm an anarchist, you idiot (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:42:29

Right, and property rights are one of the things you - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:48:15

Wrong, Pickle constantly posts how you own your own body(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/12 09:45:54

well, I guess you can possibly be this stupid (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:53:56

Damn, dude. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/12 08:53:44

You can't possibly be this stupid - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:38:26

*pulls out FBI crime statistics, "uh 12% of the population.. - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 12/12 08:15:24

Wrong (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:20:12

That was NOT said by Lincoln, it was said by - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:00:33

Which Lincoln also advocated for(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/12 09:07:39

It was also Abraham Lincoln who said: - AllThingsKC KC - 12/12 07:32:03

RE: It was also Abraham Lincoln who said: - pickle MU

- 12/12 07:44:11

that wasn't Lincoln. It was GA Tiger, and it was 3 months - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 11:12:08

It is possible, pickle, for people to learn through - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:04:57

it doesn't appear Lincoln ever changed his - Sal KC - 12/12 08:15:10

that's true - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:13:49

Absolutely he did. - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:17:38

Lincoln was a savage tyrant. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/12 08:11:28

Did the Confederate States of America value liberty? (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:23:38

red herring (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:27:10

Answer the question(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:28:35

No. It was a red herring (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:29:22

You and others cannot attack Lincoln as being an enemy - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:32:17

it's a red herring and your premise is fallacious (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 11:12:51

That's illogical - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:38:01

It's not illogical at all. Lincoln, this tyrant according to - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:39:16

Again, it's a red herring - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:44:26

So if I start a thread that asks - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:45:49

"did Lincoln"? wouldn't be an answer (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 12/12 11:18:36

Here you go - Sal KC - 12/12 08:40:15

Why can't two different things both be the enemy? (nm) - Sal KC - 12/12 08:35:22

The notion that Lincoln and the CSA are on equal footing - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:36:52

You're the one trying to compare them (nm) - Sal KC - 12/12 08:38:00

All I'm trying to do is get pickle to answer a question - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:38:43

Your question had nothing to do - Sal KC - 12/12 08:39:21

Original argument: - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:41:38

Both can be an enemy at the same time (nm) - Sal KC - 12/12 08:43:16

"of the people, by the people, and for the people" - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:16:05

"I oppose same sex marriage." - AllThingsKC KC - 12/12 08:04:13

his didn't - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:14:59

Link? Nm - hokie VT - 12/12 07:31:26

lol didn't teach you that in your civil war class, did they? - pickle MU

- 12/12 07:41:43

Lincoln didn't say that, pickle. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:18:55

I'm talking about Lincoln's racism (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:29:03

And his perspective clearly changed with regards to race - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:30:47

It didn't (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:33:58

It absolutely did. - MrBlueSky MU - 12/12 08:35:30

In an opportunist sort of way - ummmm MU - 12/12 09:09:48

It is often ignored that the Emancipation Proclamation didn' - TigerMatt STL - 12/12 07:44:09

Did that excite you?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/12 07:24:01

No it was repulsive - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/12 07:28:12

And you people thought Mr. Lincoln cared that much about... - DoltfromSTL MU - 12/12 07:17:54

RE: Interesting thought about black people - None**** MU - 12/12 06:24:43

Thank God he suspended civil rights. If he hadn't - GA Tiger MU - 12/12 08:10:45

Do you mean countries or republics? - pickle MU

- 12/12 08:19:48

im aware. There’s some people who love him though - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/12 06:59:01