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I've stated it many times

Posted on: November 23, 2018 at 12:55:38 CT
pickle MU
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The free market is the exchange of property rights absent force or fraud.

Regulation is force; it is the insertion of an outside party who has no say or rights in the exchange forcing its desires backed by guns upon the two parties

Therefore it is impossible for the free market to fail. Either the two parties exchange rights, or they don't

Edited by pickle at 12:57:02 on 11/23/18
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The other day clear failures of the free market were present - JG A - 11/23 12:16:29
     First, there is no such thing as a "real" solution if - GA Tiger MU - 11/23 13:31:26
     You didn't provide any examples - pickle MU - 11/23 12:38:01
          I provided 14 and if always does - JG A - 11/23 12:39:20
               You didn't. You provided what you think are examples - pickle MU - 11/23 12:43:30
                    LOL never except already in this very thread - JG A - 11/23 12:44:34
                         Not really. It was a bit of circular logic - pickle MU - 11/23 12:50:57
                              LOL I axed for your bizarre definition - JG A - 11/23 12:53:11
                                   I've stated it many times - pickle MU - 11/23 12:55:38
                                        See thats exactly why the free market so often fails - JG A - 11/23 13:02:17
                                             How do external parties have any rights in a two party - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:04:01
                                                  When it infringes, of course - JG A - 11/23 13:07:29
                                                       Then that's not the free market - pickle MU - 11/23 13:15:09
                                                       Like government interfering with property rights in a - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:09:12
                                             No, tha's your ignorance and authoritarian desires (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 13:03:41
                                                  Nope , just the realities of any society - JG A - 11/23 13:08:04
                                                       No, it'a your ignorance and authoritarianism - pickle MU - 11/23 13:13:32
                                                       So authoritarianism is ok because it is a reality of society - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:09:59
                                                            Its doubtful - JG A - 11/23 13:12:20
                                                                 You are calling for authoritarianism, not me.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:13:30
                         Not once. And that underscores your ignorance.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:47:26
                              LOL like shooting ideologues in a barrel - JG A - 11/23 12:48:33
                                   So what free market are you talking about?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:51:51
     What is this free market failure that you speak of? - Fourth and Long MU - 11/23 12:24:17
          I gave 14 examples, here are a few more - JG A - 11/23 12:25:32
               None of those are examples (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 12:57:55
     what free market are you referring to? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/23 12:20:06
          not surprisingly - JG A - 11/23 12:24:22
               So, all's well now? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/23 12:42:30
                    As I have said for lo these many years - JG A - 11/23 12:46:15
                         Who should be in charge of the balancing act?(nm) - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:01:17
                              At least in theory - JG A - 11/23 13:03:30
                                   How? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:06:49
                                        elections - JG A - 11/23 13:13:17
                                             That seems contradictory to what you just said - pickle MU - 11/23 13:24:30
                                                  Nope - JG A - 11/23 13:25:43
                                                       It's your argument (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 13:26:25
                                             We have elections. All is well then? (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:21:32
                                                  Nope - JG A - 11/23 13:23:54
                                                       Can you just tell me exactly how it should look - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:43:04
                                                       So not elections. Make up your mind (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 13:25:48
                                                            Theory is not reality - JG A - 11/23 13:26:30
                                                                 Nice dodge. Now, back on topic - pickle MU - 11/23 13:34:03
                                                                      We have elections - JG A - 11/23 17:29:30
                                             You mean those events where people vote for politicians - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:14:29
                                                  You don't have to believe in reality - JG A - 11/23 13:18:00
                                                       So elections do not result in politicians who then pass laws - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:34:11
               When did it exist? Why are you thankful for government - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:25:39
                    I neither mentioned nor advocated - JG A - 11/23 12:28:28
                         "With regulation there is now bounty for all." - JG (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 12:39:11
                              Yes. regulation - JG A - 11/23 12:41:39
                                   That is control. - pickle MU - 11/23 12:45:47
                         Yes you did. Who else would regulate the market to not - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:29:20
                              regulation can be regarded as - JG A - 11/23 12:31:04
                                   Regulating is controlling. - ummmm MU - 11/23 12:44:21
                                        I allowed for the Spankmatic - JG A - 11/23 12:47:27
                                             Control is not control. - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:00:17
                                                  Hallelujah - JG A - 11/23 13:04:37
                                                       Very Orwellian of you (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 13:06:05
                                                            LOL - JG A - 11/23 13:20:02
                                                            Yep. (nm) - ummmm MU - 11/23 13:07:44
                                                       Very Bill Clinton of you (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:05:52
                                             Control is control.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:47:54
                                                  I'm cool with your not understanding the language - JG A - 11/23 12:49:25
                                                       You've really deteriorated (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 12:53:16
                                                       Explain how control is not control?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:52:43
                                                            some rules and regulations - JG A - 11/23 13:00:06
                                                                 Paved roads not unoften use seized land from land owners. - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:02:44
                                                                      Since when do Keystone advocates - JG A - 11/23 13:06:43
                                                                           More logical fallacies and immaturity from you (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 13:17:11
                                                                                nope - JG A - 11/23 13:18:22
                                                                                     Yes. It was a straw man and a very weak attack - pickle MU - 11/23 13:34:43
                                                                           Another JG lie. - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 13:08:09
                                   Why would a conservative support big government interference - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:33:13
                                        Among the (alright you got me- nearly everything) - JG A - 11/23 12:37:45
               then what are you talking about in your OP that happene - 90Tiger MU - 11/23 12:25:18
                    examples were presented - JG A - 11/23 12:27:41
                         When did the free market exist? (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:28:32
     We don't have a free market so your premise is false. And - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:17:53
          LOl and the song and dance of the simpleton - JG A - 11/23 12:19:35
               Define and describe the free market in one sentence - pickle MU - 11/23 12:36:50
                    I'll give you two - JG A - 11/23 12:40:44
                         I knew you wouldn't do it - pickle MU - 11/23 12:48:52
                              By definition - JG A - 11/23 12:50:43
                                   They don't. But go ahead and explain how (nm) - pickle MU - 11/23 12:51:43
               Where is this free market? (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/23 12:22:31
               what free market are you speaking about then? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/23 12:20:29




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