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that's quite the detailed summary you've made there

Posted on: October 8, 2018 at 12:33:23 CT
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/10/01/us-canada-mexico-just-reached-sweeping-new-nafta-deal-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.09bc5d1d7da8

Big changes for cars. The goal of the new deal is to have more cars and truck parts made in North America. Starting in 2020, to qualify for zero tariffs, a car or truck must have 75 percent of its components manufactured in Canada, Mexico or the United States, a substantial boost from the current 62.5 percent requirement.

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There’s also a new rule that a significant percentage of the work done on the car must be completed by workers earning at least $16 an hour, or about three times what the typical Mexican autoworker makes. Starting in 2020, cars and trucks should have at least 30 percent of the work on the vehicle done by workers earning $16 an hour. That gradually moves up to 40 percent for cars by 2023.

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Trump’s victory: Canada opens up its milk market to U.S. farmers. Trump tweeted often about how unfair he thought it was that Canada charged such high tariffs on U.S. dairy products. Canada has a complex milk and dairy system. To ensure Canadian dairy farmers don’t go bankrupt, the Canadian government restricts how much dairy can be produced in the country and how much foreign dairy can enter to keep milk prices high. Trump didn’t like that, and dairy was a major sticking point in the negotiations.

In the end, Canada is keeping most of its complex system in place, but it is giving greater market share to U.S. dairy farmers. U.S. negotiators say they got a major victory by forcing Canada to eliminate the pricing scheme for what are known as Class 7 dairy products. That means U.S. dairy farmers can probably send a lot more milk protein concentrate, skim milk powder and infant formula to Canada (and those products are relatively easy to transport and store).

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Canada’s victory: Chapter 19, allowing for a special dispute process, stays intact. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said repeatedly that he wanted to keep Chapter 19 in place, and that’s exactly what happened. The U.S. side pushed hard to eliminate this chapter, but in the end, it stayed.

Chapter 19 allows Canada, Mexico and the United States to challenge one another’s anti-dumping and countervailing duties in front of a panel of representatives from each country. This is generally a much easier process than trying to challenge a trade practice in a U.S. court. Over the years, Canada has successfully used Chapter 19 to challenge the United States on its softwood lumber restrictions.

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Mexico and Canada get assurance Trump won’t pound them with auto tariffs. Trump has repeatedly threatened to slap hefty tariffs on car and vehicle parts coming from overseas into the United States. Along with the new trade deal, his administration signed “side letters” allowing the two nations to mostly dodge Trump’s auto tariffs.

The side letters say Canada and Mexico can continue sending about the same vehicles and parts across the border free of charge, regardless of whether auto tariffs go into effect down the road. Only parts above that quota could face tariffs.

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Trump’s steel tariffs stay in place (for now). Canada wanted Trump to stop his 25 percent tariffs on Canadian steel. That didn’t happen — yet. The two countries are still discussing lifting those tariffs, but a senior White House official said Sunday that process is on a “completely separate track.” Trudeau has called the steel tariffs “insulting and unacceptable” because the two nations are such close allies.

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Improved labor and environmental rights. The USMCA makes a number of significant upgrades to environmental and labor regulations, especially regarding Mexico. For example, the USMCA stipulates that Mexican trucks that cross the border into the United States must meet higher safety regulations and that Mexican workers must have more ability to organize and form unions. Some of these provisions might be difficult to enforce, but the Trump administration says it is committed to ensuring these happen — a reason U.S. labor unions and some Democrats are cheering the new rules.

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ncreased intellectual property protections. The new IP chapter is 63 pages and contains more-stringent protections for patents and trademarks, including for biotech, financial services and even domain names. Many business leaders and legal experts believed these updates were necessary given that the original agreement was negotiated 25 years ago.

Big drug companies gain more footing in Canada. U.S. drug companies will now be able to sell pharmaceuticals in Canada for 10 years before facing generic competition. That’s up from eight years of so-called “market protection” now.


Deal must be reviewed after 6 years. The USMCA stipulates that the three nations will review the agreement after six years. If all parties agree it’s still good, then the deal will continue for the full 16 year period (with the ability to renew after that for another 16 years). This was a compromise provision: Trump wanted ability to renegotiate the deal frequently. Ultimately, there will be a review, but it won’t happen until after Trump leaves office.

Chapter 11, giving investors a special way to fight government decisions, is (mostly) gone. Chapter 11 is eliminated entirely for Canada and mostly for Mexico, except for some key industries such as energy and telecommunications. Chapter 11 gave companies and investors a special process to resolve disputes with one of the governments in NAFTA. The idea was that if investors put a lot of money into a project and then the government changed the rules, there was a clear dispute process — outside the court system — where investors could get their problem resolved.

Critics argue that Chapter 11 was mainly used as a way for big corporations to get taxpayer money, but businesses say it was necessary to ensure they weren’t harmed by sudden changes when new governments came into power in Mexico, Canada or the United States. In the end, Chapter 11 is mostly gone, except for a few key industries, such as oil, that lobbied hard to be able to challenge the Mexican government if it changes the rules and tries to nationalize its energy sector again.
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I axed earlier but got no reply - JG MU - 10/8 12:05:32
     Took WORST TRADE DEAL IN HISTORY and did minimal - raskolnikov MU - 10/8 12:28:40
          Agree; his self-promotion on this is absurd even for Trump. - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:44:22
               Libs and dems should prefer this one to the old - Ferg STL - 10/8 12:58:05
                    I don't think the dynamic is as simple as you're indicating - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:18:11
                    RE: Libs and dems should prefer this one to the old - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:15:38
                         I don't think a trade deal should dictate wages - Ferg STL - 10/8 13:28:31
                              But you're fine with the entire document essentially - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:34:48
                                   no. In a perfect world, trade deals would eliminate - Ferg STL - 10/8 13:44:15
                                        Well NAFTA and the new agreement are about the same - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 14:12:52
                    no it isn't Ferg - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:14:35
                    that impacts Mexico, not the US, ferg. US auto workers - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:13:31
                         It reduces the financial incentive to operate in Mexico - Ferg STL - 10/8 13:25:15
                              yeah, I get that. Do you support OSHA? Other state and - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:35:42
                                   How do child labor laws drive up the cost? - MrBlueSky MU - 10/8 13:48:46
                                        given your snarky response, do you now see the need for - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 14:15:17
                                        Not being able to hire kids at low wages, of course. What - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 14:14:19
                                             Ah, yes - MrBlueSky MU - 10/8 14:52:24
                                                  you missed the point entirely, good work (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 15:44:24
                                   minimum wage laws should be eliminated - Ferg STL - 10/8 13:46:29
                                        child labor, osha, minimum wages, all have impacts - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 14:16:15
               Most agree this is a better deal for the US - Spanky KU - 10/8 12:46:58
                    i know. JG doesn't care (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:47:24
                         LOL damn you are one dishonest simpleton - JG MU - 10/8 12:49:24
     No difference...con - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/8 12:25:33
     40(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/8 12:24:08
     RE: I axed earlier but got no reply - Cyrus MU - 10/8 12:22:20
     adds a $16/hr min wage, - Ferg STL - 10/8 12:20:44
          RE: adds a $16/hr min wage, - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:34:27
          that's quite the detailed summary you've made there - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:33:23
          More regulations? - JG MU - 10/8 12:22:48
               yup - Ferg STL - 10/8 12:26:42
                    Please elaborate (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:33:48
                         RE: Please elaborate (nm) - Ferg STL - 10/8 12:51:46
                              the whole document is "regs", Ferg. There are some - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 13:12:49
                         Do your own research - JG MU - 10/8 12:40:34
                              I didn't start a thread asking for knowledge; he gave - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:44:55
     Being lazy doesn't deserve much of a response.(nm) - jmlppx MU - 10/8 12:20:37
          RE: Being lazy doesn't deserve much of a response.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/8 13:16:00
     Use Google, man... - Spanky KU - 10/8 12:08:05
          LOL so you guys are all a cheering - JG MU - 10/8 12:12:41
               RE: LOL so you guys are all a cheering - mizzoumurfkc KC - 10/8 12:27:54
               You seem to be the one who needed education - Spanky KU - 10/8 12:18:11
               do your own homework. anything "we" tell you is just - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:13:28
                    great point - JG MU - 10/8 12:14:27
                         Or you to know what you are disparaging - other than its - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/8 12:16:38
                         do your own homework and stop asking people you call - 90Tiger STL - 10/8 12:15:45




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